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Intruducing my boat, Jonathan

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Created by garymalmgren 1 month ago, 26 Jun 2022
garymalmgren
882 posts
26 Jun 2022 8:42AM
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On another post rl3 asked me for more details about my boat.
Thanks Gary it came up on one click. That is serious fog. If you wouldn't mind advising what model yacht you have? regards Rob
Here you go. The Iwasaki Boat Building company is one of the biggest manufactures of Japanese GRP fishing boats. I don't know exactly but some of them are really big. I have now seen a medium sized fishing boat made of anything other than GRP. Anyway, in the mid to late '70s they decided to build yachts. That is where my boat came from. It is solid and heavy. I imagine they bought molds from overseas. Most likely the U.S. My boat has a fully upholstered and fully molded interior. This would have made it the top of the range for this size boat and there for the most expensive. They only made these for a few years before trying another few designs and then giving up.


The Japanese name is a Canal 25. The sailmaker at Far East had never heard the name or seen the sail insignia (a whale or a dolphin wrapped in a ball?). I like to think she is a scaled down S&S thirty something.


Wineglass transom. Tumblehome. Offset companionway. 7 winches.

Short boom. The hull is battle scared from the tsunami and I will keep her that way. She doesn't look derelict or unloved, just a little life weary.








Lazzz
NSW, 788 posts
26 Jun 2022 12:56PM
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Stick a pic, or several, in here Gaz

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Pics-of-the-Seabreeze-boats?page=10

C'mon Seabreezers, surely there must be some new boat pics by now!!!

r13
NSW, 1150 posts
26 Jun 2022 5:32PM
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Thanks Gary, that is a really neat yacht in the 24-26ft range which imho is the most "sailing fix per $" size range. Looks well built and nicely fitted out. 7 winches - cripes. Googling that boat builder threw absolutely nothing up but obviously many boat builders have unfortunately gone pear shaped since the 70s. The cabin and cockpit design geometry shapes are extremely well thought out.
Yes can imagine what the tsunami would have inflicted on boats. Can't imagine what wind strength would be used in Japan for the design and manufacture of mooring block size and tackle, bow rollers and bollards including foredeck strengthening.
Below is my Parramatta River 25 I took over 6 months ago and the 14th and last yacht I will do a 1/2 life refurb on. Designed late 70s and built from then to early/mid 80s in Sydney.........solid heavy well built yacht but not well known. They have a full keel and 5ft9" headroom, massive icebox, loo in forepeak. This one has a 10hp one lunger inboard Lombardini tractor diesel marinised by Sole.........so a good grandfather harbour day sailer and fishing platform - for summer bream and tailor and winter kingfish hoodlums. Need to fit pushpit, stanchions and lifelines - fix pulpit but probably cheaper to make a new one from scratch - new battery and get elec diesel start re-activated, gear and throttle controls unseized, new 2nd hand mainsail and go sailing this coming summer.
Will put the photos on Lazzz's link!








r13
NSW, 1150 posts
26 Jun 2022 5:36PM
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Lazzz said..
Stick a pic, or several, in here Gaz

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Pics-of-the-Seabreeze-boats?page=10

C'mon Seabreezers, surely there must be some new boat pics by now!!!


Just tried to and got this as below - unexpected as the last post was Sept 2020 - maybe Laurie can advise..........and open up that thread again?


Sorry - conversation is too old to resurrect - time to start a new topic?

Ramona
NSW, 6758 posts
27 Jun 2022 7:55AM
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garymalmgren said..
On another post rl3 asked me for more details about my boat.
Thanks Gary it came up on one click. That is serious fog. If you wouldn't mind advising what model yacht you have? regards Rob
Here you go. The Iwasaki Boat Building company is one of the biggest manufactures of Japanese GRP fishing boats. I don't know exactly but some of them are really big. I have now seen a medium sized fishing boat made of anything other than GRP. Anyway, in the mid to late '70s they decided to build yachts. That is where my boat came from. It is solid and heavy. I imagine they bought molds from overseas. Most likely the U.S. My boat has a fully upholstered and fully molded interior. This would have made it the top of the range for this size boat and there for the most expensive. They only made these for a few years before trying another few designs and then giving up.


The Japanese name is a Canal 25. The sailmaker at Far East had never heard the name or seen the sail insignia (a whale or a dolphin wrapped in a ball?). I like to think she is a scaled down S&S thirty something.


Wineglass transom. Tumblehome. Offset companionway. 7 winches.

Short boom. The hull is battle scared from the tsunami and I will keep her that way. She doesn't look derelict or unloved, just a little life weary.










I say it would be a stock USA design. It looks like a Gary Mull design to me.

Mr Hooper
WA, 154 posts
27 Jun 2022 2:33PM
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It's a nice looking boat. I don't think it's a Gary Mull design though. He usually has a raked and open transom. The coach roof looks pretty different to any of his designs as well

Ramona
NSW, 6758 posts
28 Jun 2022 8:25AM
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It does look a lot like an early Yamaha 25. I can not recall who designed them.

www.yachtandboat.com/listing/yamaha-25-mk-ii/

RichardG
WA, 3700 posts
28 Jun 2022 5:53PM
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Looking at it there is a logo on the sail and I am unsure what the logo is. In styling terms of lines and in particular the cabin window and transom it is reminscent of the Yamaha 25 as the lines and deck layout and the cabin window and get up are similar but the window is actually different to the Yamaha so clearly the original poster's boat is unlikely to be a Yamaha 25. The designated Yamaha 25-2 is a 7.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Yamaha/Ichiro Yokoyama and built by Yamaha starting in 1976. Of course the Canal 25 and Iwasaki as the original poster says are apparently a different boat entirely. I guess the Yamaha may have been the benchmark or possibly the other way around but it would be interesting to know more.

sailboatdata.com/sailboat/yamaha-25-2

sailboat.guide/yamaha/25-2

garymalmgren
882 posts
28 Jun 2022 9:07PM
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Yamaha 25 are probably the most common sailboat in Japan. I raced one 30 years ago or so,
There are couple of noticeable differences between Jonathan and the yamies.
One is the speed. Yamahas are a lot faster.
The other is the weight. Yamahas are a lot lighter.
I will accept that Jono is a generic American design.
Overbuilt at that.
Could be a lot worse.
Ramona, Mr Hooper and Richard, Thanks for chipping in.
Bob, The difference between yours and mine is that I have 7 foot head room.
If you stand where the hatch is open. LOL

gary

r13
NSW, 1150 posts
29 Jun 2022 5:58PM
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Goodo. I will have the same when I cut a cabin top sliding hatch in - there is none now only a few PR25s had sliding hatches. Not sure why anyone would save a few $s at the original build stage to omit one. A tad hot up your way at the moment trust all are ok.



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