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Is the LT the best thing that ever happened to windsurfing? Or has it ruined it?

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Created by Ant-man > 9 months ago, 22 Nov 2019
Chris 249
NSW, 3232 posts
24 Jan 2020 8:32AM
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Great post, JB.

tbwonder
NSW, 643 posts
24 Jan 2020 9:14AM
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Now I see why we do not get the numbers at NSW Slalom events, we do not have a beer sponsor!

Congratulations on getting such good numbers to your event, I hope you have a great week.

You know you are successful when you attract the trolls, they don't waste their time on threads that nobody reads

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
24 Jan 2020 2:26PM
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snides8 said..I was told they couldn't launch the support boats,perhaps someone who is there can confirm?


lotofwind said..
Day 1 cancelled due to strong winds a big waves???
Are you sure this is a windsurfing comp?????




I was told they couldn't launch the support boats,perhaps someone who is there can confirm?



www.sail-world.com/news/225933/Windsurfer-Australian-Championship--Day-One

The above news article confirms it: "Day one of the Windsurfer Class National Titles at the Brighton & Seacliff Yacht Club saw strong winds gusting to thirty knots until late into the afternoon. Unfortunately due to safety concerns for the launching of safety and race committee boats racing was postponed for the day."

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
24 Jan 2020 2:58PM
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A great day on the water with four course races completed at the Nationals in South Australia. Total entries is actually 116 competitors. The LT aerial of "logs" and sails on the beach makes a great windsurfing photo.

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 12:42AM
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2020 Windsurfer LT Nationals Update-MBSC perspective (WA club of the LT and home of 2020 WORLDS)
Congratulations to MBSC Club member Julian Atkinson for his standout effort at the 2020 Windsurfer Nationals held at Brighton & Seacliff Yacht Club (BSYC) in Adelaide over the Australia Day Long weekend. Julian won a heat and finished up 4th in the Super Heavy Weight Division...not bad for a newcomer to the Windsurfer Class this season. Another notable result from the Adelaide Nationals was Tim Gourlay (current world champ and occasional visitor to MBSC) who took out the winners trophy in the lightweight division. Congratulations to all the Windsurfer LT sailors who made the trip to the Adelaide Nationals. It is great to see the youth who did so well in the various divisions the results speak for themselves. Also the large womens division too such diversity. It is a really great class.

www.clubops.com.au/DisplayResults/DisplayPublicSeriesResults?Id=529&Id2=2020%20Windsurfer%20Nationals&fbclid=IwAR3Had_Fr25XncF6i5S2WsFk0jztE0QMa3GraawLq5NV5axgw301Wfx7Ynw

duzzi
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30 Jan 2020 1:35AM
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lotofwind said..
Sorry to correct you, but Im a loser, not a looser.
All in good fun mate, sorry to annoy you.



I love social media: it has the capacity to always bring out the worst. Nothing fun in your provocations, Lotofwind, they are just mean spirited pokes.

But to the original question. I do not know if the Windsurfer LT is the best thing ever to happen to windsurf, but I know that it must be fun. I can see a lovely a sandy beach, and long afternoons just going around, like I did with the first Windurfer ages ago. I could be out all winter with it in the San Francisco Bay Area.

I am on foil right now and foil, at least right now, is not fun. It is work, tension, adrenaline ... so much so that I am not looking forward to the next session. I kind of dread it. Of course it will change, but I can see how, especially for people who like myself for a reason or another don't pick it up quickly, a Windsurfer LT can start to look like a mirage of serenity! And for young sailors, say under 10-12, I cannot imagine a better platform ... before they start foiling, learn it in an afternoon, and leave all the rest of us bobbing in the tiny waves a foil makes!!!!!!

MatStirl
TAS, 136 posts
30 Jan 2020 7:29AM
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RichardG said..
2020 Windsurfer LT Nationals Update-MBSC perspective (WA club of the LT and home of 2020 WORLDS)
Congratulations to MBSC Club member Julian Atkinson for his standout effort at the 2020 Windsurfer Nationals held at Brighton & Seacliff Yacht Club (BSYC) in Adelaide over the Australia Day Long weekend. Julian won a heat and finished up 4th in the Super Heavy Weight Division...not bad for a newcomer to the Windsurfer Class this season. Another notable result from the Adelaide Nationals was Tim Gourlay (current world champ and occasional visitor to MBSC) who took out the winners trophy in the lightweight division. Congratulations to all the Windsurfer LT sailors who made the trip to the Adelaide Nationals. It is great to see the youth who did so well in the various divisions the results speak for themselves. Also the large womens division too such diversity. It is a really great class.

www.clubops.com.au/DisplayResults/DisplayPublicSeriesResults?Id=529&Id2=2020%20Windsurfer%20Nationals&fbclid=IwAR3Had_Fr25XncF6i5S2WsFk0jztE0QMa3GraawLq5NV5axgw301Wfx7Ynw


Makes you wonder why it's not newsworthy enough for Australia's Mysailing.com to mention it when other sailing websites have.

I sent them an email and asked the question - no response.

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 10:33AM
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myclubspot.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/uGjqsKWUWf_doc_1580264387664?fbclid=IwAR0Xp8pgZsQ2-cfL_Xz7y_NDV6MpjPZ3ds6Kbvc-Nmfvsqyx3_iEOorY1SA

Tim Gourlay of WA outstanding overall pentathlon winner, winning Lightweight Course Racing, Marathon as well as Slalom and I believe also the Freestyle. He is a world champion and also Australian champion, which he has been before.

www.windsurferclassaus.com/past-champions.html

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 6:33PM
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sopyc.com.au/head-coach-report-28-jan-2020/

For those that don't know about the Windsurfer LT. It is based on the original Windsurfer but updated to a modern construction. Nearly all Windsurf manufacturers have agreed to promote the LT as their One Design platform for Windsurfing.In just over a year 4000 boards have been sold worldwide.Denis Jones is Head Coach at SPYC and is well known to MBSC being a long time past member and was one of the people key to the introduction of the LT to MBSC (home of the 2020 Windsurfer Worlds) along with Steve Schneider another LT enthusiast and Rear Commodore at MBSC and windsurfing since the early 1980s. Both of them are also keen foilers as are many others in the LT fleet.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jan 2020 9:53PM
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WOW, I don't think your figures are correct??
Surely there would have been more than 4000 boards sold since that design first came out in the 70's?? or maybe Im wrong? thought there was heaps more windsurfers back then that learnt on them.

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 7:06PM
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lotofwind said..
WOW, I don't think your figures are correct??
Surely there would have been more than 4000 boards sold since that design first came out in the 70's?? or maybe Im wrong? thought there was heaps more windsurfers back then that learnt on them.







LT 4000 sold since 2018-2019 season and the year since. The Original Windsurfer was a strict one design (1968-1984) which sold over 400,000 units - still the largest sailing class ever.The first world championships for the Windsurfer Class were held in 1974. Two years later in 1976 in Nassau, Bahamas, 456 competitors took part in what was then the largest one design sailing event ever. Here, a 13 year old Robby Naish of Hawaii took the overall title. Naish would go on to dominate the sport for the next several decades. The rest is history and I don't have details on the Mk 2 One Design since 1984 (rumoured an additional 75,000) and the new class LT is different but 4000 units apply to that and now in excess of that anyway as we speak they are flying out the door.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jan 2020 10:43PM
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Don't you mean Robby Naish then invented kitesurfing and foiling with a windwing , made another million, then the rest is history ??

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 8:04PM
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lotofwind said..
Don't you mean Robby Naish then invented kitesurfing and foiling with a windwing , made another million, then the rest is history ??


Sorry don't have financials on that.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jan 2020 11:37PM
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How about the financials on how much you have earned getting 20cents every time you say LT on forums

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 9:10PM
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lotofwind said..
How about the financials on how much you have earned getting 20cents every time you say LT on forums




Sorry zero cents have been earned by me, since it is a labour of love not one of mammon.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jan 2020 12:17AM
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Ohhhhh, you say I have to leave????? Damn, I just bought an old LT and was about to give a review to help boost your sales.


edit...... wow you retracted your last post quickly .

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 9:17PM
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RichardG said..




lotofwind said..
Don't you mean Robby Naish then invented kitesurfing and foiling with a windwing , made another million, then the rest is history ??






Sorry don't have financials on that.





Robby did not invent kitesurfing nor did he invent foiling with a windwing. Please also prove he made another million from that, as you assert above ? In my opinion he did not since he did not invent either of the things you state. Your lack of knowledge in these areas underlines the weakness of many of your baseless arguments.

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 9:21PM
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lotofwind said..
Ohhhhh, you say I have to leave????? Damn, I just bought an old LT and was about to give a review to help boost your sales.


Sorry you don't have to leave and I did not mean that. Please post a photo of you and your LT.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jan 2020 12:38AM
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OK, here's a pic.
Sorry, the photo was taken with a very old camera




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RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 9:55PM
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lotofwind said..
OK, here's a pic.
Sorry, the photo was taken with a very old camera




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Thanks. It is not an LT. It looks like an early yellow glass Baja board from the very early 70s with photo taken in another nation and definitely not the youthful kiter you often claim you are! Infact that is the first Windsurfer in France with sail number 48. Hence it appears you are again telling fibs. You should give up now.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jan 2020 1:27AM
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Bugger, you caught me out, gezzzz your a smart one. If that is the first and only sailor back then in France, why does he need a sail number ??????

I heard someone down the beach yesterday say the LT is like an Elvis impersonator at the RSL. Young kiddies dance to it cause they don't know any better yet and the oldies dance to it cause they prefer life 50 years ago.
I don't get what they mean though as I have never heard of a Elvis before????

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 11:04PM
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lotofwind said..the LT is like an Elvis impersonator .... Young kiddies dance to it cause they don't know any better yet and the oldies dance to it cause they prefer life 50 years ago.








Good analogy. Good things remain popular. It just as fun now as it always was particularly if you like competition in one design fleets. If you don't like course racing one designs then it is not for you. The course racing is fairly similar upwind to displacement boats in light winds. Above 10 knots, racing becomes more skiff like. Downwind requires a lot of physical pumping and steering with the sail and board. Really good skills to apply to boats but not teabaggers.The Slalom in the light winds is a fitness and board control workout and similarly board handling and fitness in highwinds. The Marathon is a 2-hour long race with unlimited pumping. These may not interest you as kiting is for different people most of whom do not race. You probably have no interest and you do not know or remember Elvis either probably also not The Stray Cats, any good Rockabilly or heroic punk new wave like The Stranglers or Aussie punk rockers the Saints, indie outfits such as The Triffids, the Models or The Sunnyboys. You are a young kiter probably interested only in acid house and techno.Thanks.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jan 2020 2:22AM
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Nothing wrong with liking the golden oldie abc music,
never heard of any of those ones though, don't think JJJ plays anything from back then.
a sunnyboy is what they use to call an ice block in the 70's????????

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
30 Jan 2020 11:23PM
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lotofwind said..
Nothing wrong with liking the golden oldie abc music,
never heard of any of those ones though,
a sunnyboy is what they use to call an ice block in the 70's????????



You are a crazy kooky kiting cat. I guess you would need an ice block for an iced tea if you were keen on teabagging.

Ant-man
NSW, 177 posts
31 Jan 2020 6:23AM
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lotofwind said..

I heard someone down the beach yesterday say the LT is like an Elvis impersonator at the RSL. Young kiddies dance to it cause they don't know any better yet and the oldies dance to it cause they prefer life 50 years ago.
I don't get what they mean though as I have never heard of a Elvis before????


Classic. might be your best yet lotofwind.

Chris 249
NSW, 3232 posts
31 Jan 2020 9:26AM
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lotofwind said..
Bugger, you caught me out, gezzzz your a smart one. If that is the first and only sailor back then in France, why does he need a sail number ??????

I heard someone down the beach yesterday say the LT is like an Elvis impersonator at the RSL. Young kiddies dance to it cause they don't know any better yet and the oldies dance to it cause they prefer life 50 years ago.
I don't get what they mean though as I have never heard of a Elvis before????





Funny, the other day someone said that kiters and windfoilers are like teenyboppers drooling over their Noah Centinio posters and looking up Seventeen for advice on how to wear the latest trend of knee-high boots and flannel. Because after all, nothing is important as fashion and keeping up with the cool kids. Or you could go with the Alpaca trend, because after all what really matters is being trendy.



Y'know, it's sort of funny that someone who has a pic from 1982 on his profile is so obsessed with slinging **** at other things for being old fashioned. The Young Ones are only a few years newer than the Windsurfer in Oz, so if Windsurfers look old then you must look pretty crusty yourself.

Ant-man
NSW, 177 posts
31 Jan 2020 8:08PM
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Chris 249 said..

lotofwind said..
Bugger, you caught me out, gezzzz your a smart one. If that is the first and only sailor back then in France, why does he need a sail number ??????

I heard someone down the beach yesterday say the LT is like an Elvis impersonator at the RSL. Young kiddies dance to it cause they don't know any better yet and the oldies dance to it cause they prefer life 50 years ago.
I don't get what they mean though as I have never heard of a Elvis before????






Funny, the other day someone said that kiters and windfoilers are like teenyboppers drooling over their Noah Centinio posters and looking up Seventeen for advice on how to wear the latest trend of knee-high boots and flannel. Because after all, nothing is important as fashion and keeping up with the cool kids. Or you could go with the Alpaca trend, because after all what really matters is being trendy.



Y'know, it's sort of funny that someone who has a pic from 1982 on his profile is so obsessed with slinging **** at other things for being old fashioned. The Young Ones are only a few years newer than the Windsurfer in Oz, so if Windsurfers look old then you must look pretty crusty yourself.


Yer mate, pretty crusty, knocking on 50s door

MatStirl
TAS, 136 posts
31 Jan 2020 8:36PM
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Here's an idea...ignore lotofwind then he'll go away or keep posting cause he hasn't got much else going on.

Let's move on folks.
Bagging different forms of our fun but miniscule, insignificant sport is ridiculous.

RichardG
WA, 3743 posts
1 Feb 2020 3:00PM
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Robby around 13 years old in 1976 using storm sail, high wind daggerboard, teak boom, first harness and jumping strapless. Will Robby be at the Perth LT worlds ? Well we hope so.

albymongrel
NSW, 257 posts
2 Feb 2020 7:56AM
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Wtf? And I thought lot of wind was full of it! Thought this was a windsurfing forum



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