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Created by FOILSLEEVE > 9 months ago, 24 Sep 2020
FOILSLEEVE
NSW, 81 posts
24 Sep 2020 6:27AM
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Hi everyone - looking for some more tail options and prices... wondering which brands of tails fit the GoFoil pedestal, with the 2 bolts? I've heard other brands fit ;-)

Piros
QLD, 6879 posts
24 Sep 2020 11:40AM
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Takuma , NSP , Uni & Signature.

AndyShwartz
WA, 134 posts
24 Sep 2020 11:18PM
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Same question but with the one hole version 1.0 Gofoils? Cheers

Piros
QLD, 6879 posts
25 Sep 2020 1:48AM
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Nothing only Gofoil

AndyShwartz
WA, 134 posts
25 Sep 2020 10:07AM
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Nothing only Gofoil


Thanks. I didn't think so.

FOILSLEEVE
NSW, 81 posts
25 Sep 2020 2:38PM
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Takuma , NSP , Uni & Signature.


Cool - Thanks Piros! More stuff to try ;-)

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
11 Oct 2020 12:20PM
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Its actually very simple modify the go foil fuse.
Rather than buying another tail or pedestal try tapping the fuse. Drill it out whack in a heli coil and you can mount the tails on the bottom. Shaping a tail is also very easy using G10. Sand and try. No need to resin etc.

I have had pretty good success so far. The best part is a sheet of 8mm G10 is $60 and makes 4-6 tails depending on shape.








TrailRunner
SA, 19 posts
23 Oct 2020 2:12PM
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StampnSteer said..
Hi everyone - looking for some more tail options and prices... wondering which brands of tails fit the GoFoil pedestal, with the 2 bolts? I've heard other brands fit ;-)


Hey mate, What front wings are you riding and what tails have you tried?

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
23 Oct 2020 2:38PM
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Have used the Iwa, M200 then GL210/180/140/120 now the NL160. Tails have used Kai and Maliko, both got chopped down substantially, Maliko still gets use but it's been shaved and chopped to a high aspect number. Then a mate started creating tails and I've never been back.
Having said that I am about to try a 14.5 flip tip from GF.

steamroller
49 posts
24 Oct 2020 10:54AM
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RichJam said..
Have used the Iwa, M200 then GL210/180/140/120 now the NL160. Tails have used Kai and Maliko, both got chopped down substantially, Maliko still gets use but it's been shaved and chopped to a high aspect number. Then a mate started creating tails and I've never been back.
Having said that I am about to try a 14.5 flip tip from GF.


i hope you got the 6.5 pedestal too!...that woth the NL160 is like WOW!

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
24 Oct 2020 12:42PM
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Nah I think I'll save the $170 for the pedestal.
It would only make my setup 30mm longer



FOILSLEEVE
NSW, 81 posts
25 Oct 2020 12:14PM
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TrailRunner said..

StampnSteer said..
Hi everyone - looking for some more tail options and prices... wondering which brands of tails fit the GoFoil pedestal, with the 2 bolts? I've heard other brands fit ;-)



Hey mate, What front wings are you riding and what tails have you tried?


Hi - I'm 90kg and mostly using a GL 240 with a flat tail. I really dont like the mailko tail with the GL... feels really strange. But I find the flat tail tends to skid out when I gybe. So I'm wondering if there any other tails that I could try that are more directional - and hopefully not so bloody expensive! Fat chance ;-)

Dommo49
166 posts
25 Oct 2020 12:49PM
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TrailRunner said..


StampnSteer said..
Hi everyone - looking for some more tail options and prices... wondering which brands of tails fit the GoFoil pedestal, with the 2 bolts? I've heard other brands fit ;-)




Hey mate, What front wings are you riding and what tails have you tried?



Hi - I'm 90kg and mostly using a GL 240 with a flat tail. I really dont like the mailko tail with the GL... feels really strange. But I find the flat tail tends to skid out when I gybe. So I'm wondering if there any other tails that I could try that are more directional - and hopefully not so bloody expensive! Fat chance ;-)


The flip tip tails are more directionally stable - the price is what it is. If you have access to any Takuma, Unifoil or Signature tails they also fit. Any of the winglet or curved tails will be more stable than the flat tails.

805StandUp
128 posts
26 Oct 2020 6:06AM
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Hi - I'm 90kg and mostly using a GL 240 with a flat tail. I really dont like the mailko tail with the GL... feels really strange. But I find the flat tail tends to skid out when I gybe. So I'm wondering if there any other tails that I could try that are more directional - and hopefully not so bloody expensive! Fat chance ;-)


Agree with Dommo! I didn't like how slidey the flat tail was with my GL180 but really like the 14.5" flip tip tail though depending on what you are looking for, the 17.5" may be a better size for the 240.

TrailRunner
SA, 19 posts
26 Oct 2020 2:52PM
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FOILSLEEVE said..

TrailRunner said..


StampnSteer said..
Hi everyone - looking for some more tail options and prices... wondering which brands of tails fit the GoFoil pedestal, with the 2 bolts? I've heard other brands fit ;-)




Hey mate, What front wings are you riding and what tails have you tried?



Hi - I'm 90kg and mostly using a GL 240 with a flat tail. I really dont like the mailko tail with the GL... feels really strange. But I find the flat tail tends to skid out when I gybe. So I'm wondering if there any other tails that I could try that are more directional - and hopefully not so bloody expensive! Fat chance ;-)


I'm 65kg so my experience may be a bit different but I've tried a few of the Gofoil tails with the GL240 and GL180 so here's my thoughts.

- GL240+Maliko Tail - (Sup surf and paddle downwind) This tail was designed for a massive front wing with lots of lift at slow speed so it has lots of surface area and lots of hold to balance the front wing. It didn't feel suited to the GL wings that are very neutral in terms of lift. For me it would never stall, no matter how slow you would go but just drive the nose into the water. Turning was difficult to initiate. This tail would be best suited to the original wings.
- GL240+9.5Ped+17.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf and paddle downwind) Stepping off the Maliko onto the 17.5 Flip tip was a lightbulb moment! for surfing its great with lots of control, Steep takeoffs are easy and it turns hard! for downwinding it gets started easy and has great pump. the only place I found it lacks, at least for my weight is in small directional changes. It wants you to lean it over and hook the turn which you cant always do in a downwinder but for surfing or dinging it works really well.
- GL240+9.5Ped+18W Tail - (paddle downwind) This tail is a downwind weapon! The flat tail allows very slight and precise changes in direction but without sacrificing any stability. It also allows you to hook into turns if needed. It glides and pumps well and transitions between bumps perfectly. I haven't had any issues with it skidding out but I haven't surfed it yet.
- GL240+9.5Ped+14.5 Flip Tip Tail - (paddle downwind) I ran this tail back to back with the 18W on a 7km 15-18Knott downwind run. Initially it seemed like it would be too hard to get started but once I got the hang of it, it started pretty easy. Just required a few extra strokes and pumping with the legs. It was very precise and whippy to turn but had to be on the ball not to loose speed and drop down. It was definitely faster than the 17.5 and 18W, it pumped well but felt a little small under foot so didn't feel as balanced as it did with the GL180 front wing. definitely felt fun and would surf well!
- GL180+9.5Ped+17.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf) - I'm pretty light and I'm surfing/downwinding a 5'6 x 26&1/2" Sup so I found this tail a bit too big for me. Takeoffs were a bit tricky as it had too much grip in the face of the wave and I found turning a bit clunky. It had plenty of glide and pumped well but I found I had to expend too much energy per pump due to the surface area. saying that, I don't think its the fault of the wing design but rather finding the appropriate size wing for the rider weight and gear setup because moving on to the next wing...
- GL180+9.5Ped+14.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf) - Wow! What a difference! From the first wave this setup just clicked. Takeoffs were smooth and easy and the wing just feels perfect under foot. Heaps of control, turns really easy and doesn't feel sketchy at all. Pumping is awesome, you just need to be nice and high on the mast and maintain your speed. This wing combo surfs so nice, its faster than all the other high aspect wings I've ridden but its the only combo that surfs/turns nicer than the old, slow, low aspect wings (in my opinion).

There's also the Kai and 12.5 flip tip tails and the 6.5 pedestal but I have no experience with these yet and what works for me wont necessarily work for someone else. I think there's a lot in picking the tail wing that the manufacturer has matched to the front wing and learning that as a complete setup before trying other tails, that way you can tell what's better or worse for your personal tastes. regardless of what brand tail wing you get you'll still need a pedestal. But if your looking for grip and direction then the Flip tips have that in spades!

I got all my Gofoil Gear from Ocean Surf Co. in Adelaide
www.facebook.com/oceansurf.co

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
30 Oct 2020 1:28PM
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The Maliko tail in stock form is ginormous.
I initially cut the tips off it and it went better. But still big. I ultimately ended up making it a high aspect thing. Looked horrible but it worked.
The design of both the Maliko and Kai tails were great for learning as they were stable, reduced yaw and were therefore easy to use. The flat tails are faster but slippery and you lose yaw control. Flip tip helps this to a degree.
This is the high aspect bastard Maliko I made. It is actually very good. Fast and never blows out regardless of how hard to push.














drlazone
135 posts
30 Oct 2020 8:57PM
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FOILSLEEVE said..




TrailRunner said..





StampnSteer said..
Hi everyone - looking for some more tail options and prices... wondering which brands of tails fit the GoFoil pedestal, with the 2 bolts? I've heard other brands fit ;-)







Hey mate, What front wings are you riding and what tails have you tried?






Hi - I'm 90kg and mostly using a GL 240 with a flat tail. I really dont like the mailko tail with the GL... feels really strange. But I find the flat tail tends to skid out when I gybe. So I'm wondering if there any other tails that I could try that are more directional - and hopefully not so bloody expensive! Fat chance ;-)





I'm 65kg so my experience may be a bit different but I've tried a few of the Gofoil tails with the GL240 and GL180 so here's my thoughts.

- GL240+Maliko Tail - (Sup surf and paddle downwind) This tail was designed for a massive front wing with lots of lift at slow speed so it has lots of surface area and lots of hold to balance the front wing. It didn't feel suited to the GL wings that are very neutral in terms of lift. For me it would never stall, no matter how slow you would go but just drive the nose into the water. Turning was difficult to initiate. This tail would be best suited to the original wings.
- GL240+9.5Ped+17.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf and paddle downwind) Stepping off the Maliko onto the 17.5 Flip tip was a lightbulb moment! for surfing its great with lots of control, Steep takeoffs are easy and it turns hard! for downwinding it gets started easy and has great pump. the only place I found it lacks, at least for my weight is in small directional changes. It wants you to lean it over and hook the turn which you cant always do in a downwinder but for surfing or dinging it works really well.
- GL240+9.5Ped+18W Tail - (paddle downwind) This tail is a downwind weapon! The flat tail allows very slight and precise changes in direction but without sacrificing any stability. It also allows you to hook into turns if needed. It glides and pumps well and transitions between bumps perfectly. I haven't had any issues with it skidding out but I haven't surfed it yet.
- GL240+9.5Ped+14.5 Flip Tip Tail - (paddle downwind) I ran this tail back to back with the 18W on a 7km 15-18Knott downwind run. Initially it seemed like it would be too hard to get started but once I got the hang of it, it started pretty easy. Just required a few extra strokes and pumping with the legs. It was very precise and whippy to turn but had to be on the ball not to loose speed and drop down. It was definitely faster than the 17.5 and 18W, it pumped well but felt a little small under foot so didn't feel as balanced as it did with the GL180 front wing. definitely felt fun and would surf well!
- GL180+9.5Ped+17.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf) - I'm pretty light and I'm surfing/downwinding a 5'6 x 26&1/2" Sup so I found this tail a bit too big for me. Takeoffs were a bit tricky as it had too much grip in the face of the wave and I found turning a bit clunky. It had plenty of glide and pumped well but I found I had to expend too much energy per pump due to the surface area. saying that, I don't think its the fault of the wing design but rather finding the appropriate size wing for the rider weight and gear setup because moving on to the next wing...
- GL180+9.5Ped+14.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf) - Wow! What a difference! From the first wave this setup just clicked. Takeoffs were smooth and easy and the wing just feels perfect under foot. Heaps of control, turns really easy and doesn't feel sketchy at all. Pumping is awesome, you just need to be nice and high on the mast and maintain your speed. This wing combo surfs so nice, its faster than all the other high aspect wings I've ridden but its the only combo that surfs/turns nicer than the old, slow, low aspect wings (in my opinion).

There's also the Kai and 12.5 flip tip tails and the 6.5 pedestal but I have no experience with these yet and what works for me wont necessarily work for someone else. I think there's a lot in picking the tail wing that the manufacturer has matched to the front wing and learning that as a complete setup before trying other tails, that way you can tell what's better or worse for your personal tastes. regardless of what brand tail wing you get you'll still need a pedestal. But if your looking for grip and direction then the Flip tips have that in spades!

I got all my Gofoil Gear from Ocean Surf Co. in Adelaide
www.facebook.com/oceansurf.co




Great review thanks!
I'm your weight , so far tried winging with the GL180, NL190, GL140, Maliko 200, with 6.5"pedestal+17 flipped tail, and once GL180+Maliko tail.
I find the same thing you did (also have the long pedestal but not yet tried)

Just to add to what you're saying

GL180/NL190+17 flipped tends to lock into a carve on the face, so will invest in the 14 flipped tail.

GL180+Maliko was awful, it constantly want to roll even at cruising speed.

You ought to try (for our 65Kg):
GL140+short pedestal+17 flipped.
It's my OMG combo.
It's fast, takes off early winging (14 knots with an 80L board 5m Swing), it glides, it is super responsive without being a wild horse, and it carves & turn on a dime without locking in. It obeys you instantly. You're riding the foil, the foil doesn't ride you.

Dommo49
166 posts
31 Oct 2020 12:29PM
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TrailRunner said..




FOILSLEEVE said..





TrailRunner said..






StampnSteer said..
Hi everyone - looking for some more tail options and prices... wondering which brands of tails fit the GoFoil pedestal, with the 2 bolts? I've heard other brands fit ;-)








Hey mate, What front wings are you riding and what tails have you tried?







Hi - I'm 90kg and mostly using a GL 240 with a flat tail. I really dont like the mailko tail with the GL... feels really strange. But I find the flat tail tends to skid out when I gybe. So I'm wondering if there any other tails that I could try that are more directional - and hopefully not so bloody expensive! Fat chance ;-)






I'm 65kg so my experience may be a bit different but I've tried a few of the Gofoil tails with the GL240 and GL180 so here's my thoughts.

- GL240+Maliko Tail - (Sup surf and paddle downwind) This tail was designed for a massive front wing with lots of lift at slow speed so it has lots of surface area and lots of hold to balance the front wing. It didn't feel suited to the GL wings that are very neutral in terms of lift. For me it would never stall, no matter how slow you would go but just drive the nose into the water. Turning was difficult to initiate. This tail would be best suited to the original wings.
- GL240+9.5Ped+17.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf and paddle downwind) Stepping off the Maliko onto the 17.5 Flip tip was a lightbulb moment! for surfing its great with lots of control, Steep takeoffs are easy and it turns hard! for downwinding it gets started easy and has great pump. the only place I found it lacks, at least for my weight is in small directional changes. It wants you to lean it over and hook the turn which you cant always do in a downwinder but for surfing or dinging it works really well.
- GL240+9.5Ped+18W Tail - (paddle downwind) This tail is a downwind weapon! The flat tail allows very slight and precise changes in direction but without sacrificing any stability. It also allows you to hook into turns if needed. It glides and pumps well and transitions between bumps perfectly. I haven't had any issues with it skidding out but I haven't surfed it yet.
- GL240+9.5Ped+14.5 Flip Tip Tail - (paddle downwind) I ran this tail back to back with the 18W on a 7km 15-18Knott downwind run. Initially it seemed like it would be too hard to get started but once I got the hang of it, it started pretty easy. Just required a few extra strokes and pumping with the legs. It was very precise and whippy to turn but had to be on the ball not to loose speed and drop down. It was definitely faster than the 17.5 and 18W, it pumped well but felt a little small under foot so didn't feel as balanced as it did with the GL180 front wing. definitely felt fun and would surf well!
- GL180+9.5Ped+17.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf) - I'm pretty light and I'm surfing/downwinding a 5'6 x 26&1/2" Sup so I found this tail a bit too big for me. Takeoffs were a bit tricky as it had too much grip in the face of the wave and I found turning a bit clunky. It had plenty of glide and pumped well but I found I had to expend too much energy per pump due to the surface area. saying that, I don't think its the fault of the wing design but rather finding the appropriate size wing for the rider weight and gear setup because moving on to the next wing...
- GL180+9.5Ped+14.5 Flip Tip Tail - (Sup surf) - Wow! What a difference! From the first wave this setup just clicked. Takeoffs were smooth and easy and the wing just feels perfect under foot. Heaps of control, turns really easy and doesn't feel sketchy at all. Pumping is awesome, you just need to be nice and high on the mast and maintain your speed. This wing combo surfs so nice, its faster than all the other high aspect wings I've ridden but its the only combo that surfs/turns nicer than the old, slow, low aspect wings (in my opinion).

There's also the Kai and 12.5 flip tip tails and the 6.5 pedestal but I have no experience with these yet and what works for me wont necessarily work for someone else. I think there's a lot in picking the tail wing that the manufacturer has matched to the front wing and learning that as a complete setup before trying other tails, that way you can tell what's better or worse for your personal tastes. regardless of what brand tail wing you get you'll still need a pedestal. But if your looking for grip and direction then the Flip tips have that in spades!

I got all my Gofoil Gear from Ocean Surf Co. in Adelaide
www.facebook.com/oceansurf.co





Great review thanks!
I'm your weight , so far tried winging with the GL180, NL190, GL140, Maliko 200, with 6.5"pedestal+17 flipped tail, and once GL180+Maliko tail.
I find the same thing you did (also have the long pedestal but not yet tried)

Just to add to what you're saying

GL180/NL190+17 flipped tends to lock into a carve on the face, so will invest in the 14 flipped tail.

GL180+Maliko was awful, it constantly want to roll even at cruising speed.

You ought to try (for our 65Kg):
GL140+short pedestal+17 flipped.
It's my OMG combo.
It's fast, takes off early winging (14 knots with an 80L board 5m Swing), it glides, it is super responsive without being a wild horse, and it carves & turn on a dime without locking in. It obeys you instantly. You're riding the foil, the foil doesn't ride you.


Awesome - that's how I feel about the NL160 - GoFoil rock!!!!!!!!!!!!



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