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Armstrong 2400 v 1550 front wing

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Created by MidTide > 9 months ago, 24 Jan 2020
MidTide
QLD, 28 posts
24 Jan 2020 7:00PM
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Question, I am using the Armstrong 2400 front wing for wing foiling. I find I can get going easy enough, but the speed and glide seems to be limited. Would an Armstrong 1550 wing provide a better glide and pumping in bay wind swell conditions when free foiling with the wing depowered.

hilly
TAS, 7195 posts
24 Jan 2020 8:17PM
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MidTide said..
Question, I am using the Armstrong 2400 front wing for wing foiling. I find I can get going easy enough, but the speed and glide seems to be limited. Would an Armstrong 1550 wing provide a better glide and pumping in bay wind swell conditions when free foiling with the wing depowered.


How heavy are you?

The 2400 is surprisingly fast, especially when teamed with 232 tail. I use it for 10 to 15-knot winds with a 5m and I am 105kg. Mate has the 1550 out in the same conditions but he is 80kg. 1550 is noticeably more nimble but needs more wind to get going than the 2400. 15+ knots and I am fine. The 1550 pumps better than the 2400. The 2400 does pump but it is a different technique, it will stay on the tiniest of bumps and glide forever if you are in the right spot. It likes being high on the swell do not run out in front, turning left and right to stay high works really well with it.

So if you are light (less than 90kg) or get regular good wind the 1550 would be worth getting.

MidTide
QLD, 28 posts
24 Jan 2020 7:39PM
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Thanks for the feedback
I am 95kg. Would be looking to wing foil in 18 knots to 30 knots
thats when the bay bumps are best.

kobo
NSW, 1063 posts
24 Jan 2020 9:37PM
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hilly said..

MidTide said..
Question, I am using the Armstrong 2400 front wing for wing foiling. I find I can get going easy enough, but the speed and glide seems to be limited. Would an Armstrong 1550 wing provide a better glide and pumping in bay wind swell conditions when free foiling with the wing depowered.



How heavy are you?

The 2400 is surprisingly fast, especially when teamed with 232 tail. I use it for 10 to 15-knot winds with a 5m and I am 105kg. Mate has the 1550 out in the same conditions but he is 80kg. 1550 is noticeably more nimble but needs more wind to get going than the 2400. 15+ knots and I am fine. The 1550 pumps better than the 2400. The 2400 does pump but it is a different technique, it will stay on the tiniest of bumps and glide forever if you are in the right spot. It likes being high on the swell do not run out in front, turning left and right to stay high works really well with it.

So if you are light (less than 90kg) or get regular good wind the 1550 would be worth getting.


I've got the 1550 and absolutely love it for proning ,and I'm going to give the DW Ing a crack soon. I'm 82 kgs what size board do you recon I should use ? and do you need the longer fuse for DW.Ive got 72 mast 60 fuse 300 tail.

hilly
TAS, 7195 posts
25 Jan 2020 12:11AM
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MidTide said..
Thanks for the feedback
I am 95kg. Would be looking to wing foil in 18 knots to 30 knots
thats when the bay bumps are best.


Get the 1550

hilly
TAS, 7195 posts
25 Jan 2020 12:12AM
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kobo said..

hilly said..


MidTide said..
Question, I am using the Armstrong 2400 front wing for wing foiling. I find I can get going easy enough, but the speed and glide seems to be limited. Would an Armstrong 1550 wing provide a better glide and pumping in bay wind swell conditions when free foiling with the wing depowered.




How heavy are you?

The 2400 is surprisingly fast, especially when teamed with 232 tail. I use it for 10 to 15-knot winds with a 5m and I am 105kg. Mate has the 1550 out in the same conditions but he is 80kg. 1550 is noticeably more nimble but needs more wind to get going than the 2400. 15+ knots and I am fine. The 1550 pumps better than the 2400. The 2400 does pump but it is a different technique, it will stay on the tiniest of bumps and glide forever if you are in the right spot. It likes being high on the swell do not run out in front, turning left and right to stay high works really well with it.

So if you are light (less than 90kg) or get regular good wind the 1550 would be worth getting.



I've got the 1550 and absolutely love it for proning ,and I'm going to give the DW Ing a crack soon. I'm 82 kgs what size board do you recon I should use ? and do you need the longer fuse for DW.Ive got 72 mast 60 fuse 300 tail.


DWing how? Prone, sup or wingding?

MidAtlanticFoil
671 posts
24 Jan 2020 10:57PM
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I own the 2400 and 1550 wings. I'm winging on a 100L 5'11" SUP and I'm 65kgs. After 15 or so sessions, I've only grabbed the 1550 once or twice so far, and it was earlier on my learning curve. For some reason I keep grabbing the 2400 wing. After pairing it with the HS Tail, I've been quite happy with the wing. Next time it is blowing 18 kts+ I will be grabbing the 1550 for sure, as I want to give it a go.

Also regarding the 2400, my last session was very light wind. I was having trouble getting off the water, so I swapped out the 0 degree TTF for the (now discontinued) -0.5 TTF and it helped a bunch. I haven't tried the -2 TTF, but someone else in the 95kg range raved about the -2 paired with the 2400 for lighter conditions.

I also just saw the first glimpses of the Armstrongs new wing boards. They look siiiick. I'm eyeing the 5'5" x 26 3/4" x 4 1/4" 80L version (smallest). (would have to part with my SUP though :/ Also a 5'11" and 6' 6: version.

kobo
NSW, 1063 posts
25 Jan 2020 6:39AM
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Thanks Guys ,I'm thinking wingding first ,and then maybe sup after, if I can paddle fast enough. I guess you need a bigger board for Sup DW than winging ,so I assume the Sup paddling is what determines the size board. I was thinking 120 lts to learn on ?
Interesting about the 2400 , I only have a 1550 and a 1200 , but I have the same experience with the shims, when the surf is small I go 0 shim and there's more lift at slower speeds and it turns on a dime, then when the surf is bigger and I don't want to blow out on the take offs and want to go faster with less front foot pressure I put on the +1 shim and happy days off we go !

hilly
TAS, 7195 posts
25 Jan 2020 10:55AM
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kobo said..
Thanks Guys ,I'm thinking wingding first ,and then maybe sup after, if I can paddle fast enough. I guess you need a bigger board for Sup DW than winging ,so I assume the Sup paddling is what determines the size board. I was thinking 120 lts to learn on ?
Interesting about the 2400 , I only have a 1550 and a 1200 , but I have the same experience with the shims, when the surf is small I go 0 shim and there's more lift at slower speeds and it turns on a dime, then when the surf is bigger and I don't want to blow out on the take offs and want to go faster with less front foot pressure I put on the +1 shim and happy days off we go !


120l will be fine to learn to wingding and you should be able to dw paddle it with a lot of practice.
The foil set up you have with a 4m wing will be good for 15 knots and above. If you get a 5m wing probably from 12 knots. 2400 would help the low end but at your weight may not be needed.

kobo
NSW, 1063 posts
25 Jan 2020 5:44PM
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Thanks Hilly



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