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ART vs Kujira 1095

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Created by martyman 5 months ago, 3 Dec 2021
martyman
WA, 201 posts
3 Dec 2021 12:18PM
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Bueler? Bueler? Anyone?

jondrums
113 posts
3 Dec 2021 12:22PM
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can't get the 1095 or else I would be able to tell you - hopefully soon

exiled
352 posts
3 Dec 2021 4:05PM
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iirc, Amundson got all of 10 in and they sold out in 48 hours. Not too many in the wild just yet.

jondrums
113 posts
7 Dec 2021 4:54AM
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my dealer says they are only selling it with a tail for the first round of shipments, I'll have to pay yet another 20% "tail tax" to get ahold of one quickly. On the plus side it includes a wing cover now

martyman
WA, 201 posts
7 Dec 2021 6:42AM
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jondrums said..
my dealer says they are only selling it with a tail for the first round of shipments, I'll have to pay yet another 20% "tail tax" to get ahold of one quickly. On the plus side it includes a wing cover now


I am bitter with those clowns about that ridiculous marketing svheme. I have two of those terrible stabs that cost me about 800canadian once the dust settled.

burchas
165 posts
7 Dec 2021 12:55PM
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jondrums said..
my dealer says they are only selling it with a tail for the first round of shipments, I'll have to pay yet another 20% "tail tax" to get ahold of one quickly. On the plus side it includes a wing cover now


It doesn't sounds like your dealer appreciates your business. Had my dealer told me that I would have told him to take the stab and sh... well, you know the rest. Luckily I can usually score 20% discount.

exiled
352 posts
7 Dec 2021 1:13PM
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It comes with the new smaller 178 stab, so if you don't already have one it might be worth picking it up, plus it should be easier to sell to another Takuma owner.

jondrums
113 posts
8 Dec 2021 4:54AM
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Would anyone in the US like to purchase a 178 or 158 tail? happy unload, never used either

exiled
352 posts
8 Dec 2021 5:16AM
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I've never even seen the 158 tail. What does it look like?

toppleover
QLD, 1990 posts
10 Dec 2021 6:27PM
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jondrums said..
my dealer says they are only selling it with a tail for the first round of shipments, I'll have to pay yet another 20% "tail tax" to get ahold of one quickly. On the plus side it includes a wing cover now



Where did you hear/see it includes the wing cover's please ?

toppleover
QLD, 1990 posts
2 Jan 2022 6:45PM
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misterbennits on the 1095. www.instagram.com/misterbennetts/reel/CYMx28PFLgk/?utm_medium=share_sheet

frenchfoiler
412 posts
3 Jan 2022 12:20AM
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Mercato ??? Adam is definetly the guy to get on a team !

jondrums
113 posts
3 Jan 2022 6:50AM
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from digging through the replies
1095 with 158 tail on a 75cm aluminum mast

toppleover
QLD, 1990 posts
8 Jan 2022 5:06PM
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Good pic to compare sizes of some of the latest front wings.


Thatspec
WA, 81 posts
8 Jan 2022 5:04PM
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Great shot, Thanks!
RS 1000 looking decidedly... generic (aside from being red which is always better)
So far haven't come across any video of high bank angle carves with the tip out, the steps are really the main selling point for me. Otherwise it's a red 880.

martyman
WA, 201 posts
9 Jan 2022 3:21PM
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Thatspec said..
Great shot, Thanks!
RS 1000 looking decidedly... generic (aside from being red which is always better)
So far haven't come across any video of high bank angle carves with the tip out, the steps are really the main selling point for me. Otherwise it's a red 880.


the 880 is a riot

dejavu
676 posts
10 Jan 2022 12:59AM
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AnyBoard
NSW, 68 posts
10 Jan 2022 7:58AM
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Thatspec said..
Great shot, Thanks!
RS 1000 looking decidedly... generic (aside from being red which is always better)
So far haven't come across any video of high bank angle carves with the tip out, the steps are really the main selling point for me. Otherwise it's a red 880.


For starters you should expect an 81cm wing span to turn much better than an 88cm wing span and that is not even taking into account the additional contribution the stepped section makes to easy of turning while stable in pitch.

The steps make the RS along with the takuma the least generic looking but depends how you like your marketing and what you are looking for in foil.

Maybe your just stirring but it is hard not to see the footage of the new gofoil wings with the tips out and stable. Gofoil instagram sites would be a good place to start.

martyman
WA, 201 posts
14 Jan 2022 12:10AM
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Not that the 1095 Is out, let's hear the ART vs Kujira showdown!

martyman
WA, 201 posts
14 Jan 2022 12:10AM
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Not that the 1095 Is out, let's hear the ART vs Kujira showdown!

Alysum
NSW, 886 posts
14 Jan 2022 7:37PM
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I have both , stand by for a review

martyman
WA, 201 posts
16 Jan 2022 1:40PM
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Alysum said..
I have both , stand by for a review


Awesome, really looking forward to hearing it mate!

jondrums
113 posts
17 Jan 2022 2:10AM
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First session out with the 1095 and KDMaui 13.5
was previously on the 999 exclusively for a few months. Sup foil in the surf, with great waves this morning - head high breaking nicely into a channel. need a few more sessions and maybe some tail experimentation. But for now I'd say it pumps very similar to the 1210 with a little less low end to get out of a hole. It definitely has more glide. It turns pretty nicely - maybe a little better than the 999 and pretty similar to the 1210. It rolls side to side easily and is stable in hard carves.
There is no question in my mind that I can pump the 999 much much easier. Based on my first session, The 999 has the edge because it turns pretty similar but has much better low end pump.

foilstate
72 posts
28 Jan 2022 7:56PM
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Got to try the art 999.. compared to the kujira 1210 I would say it pumps and glides better, more front foot pressure, slightly less turning ability, a bit more sudden loss of lift around the stall (probably due to the lack of tubercules on the leading edge), less tolerant around high angle of attack during pumping, harder to pump out of a low speed situation (to be fair might be due to a lack of experience with this particular wing). In my view the kujira 1095 should rather be compared to the art 899 (that I have not tried), the kujira 1210 and art 999 feel very similar overall, the 1095 feels very different than both (more speed, more turning, higher stall speed, less front foot pressure and more technical overall).

Icebergmansion
23 posts
29 Jan 2022 5:15AM
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I can compare the K1210 versus ART999, found the ART to be better pumper/glider and faster while the Kujira is better low end and much better turner. I heard the 1095 is really awesome turner and probably the best high-performance wing available.

Hadou
5 posts
29 Jan 2022 2:30PM
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Interesting !
I have both and would say the 1095 is easier to use because it keeps its lift even at a very low speed whereas the ART 999 will be more tecnical.

999 is faster than the 1095
999 pumps faster and better or at least it will help you to move faster from point A to point B while reconnecting wave or when you are wingfoiling it.
1095 has better turning ability in my opinion : I used 350 progressive with the 999 and 178 with the 1095 (34cm wingspan)

This 1095 has an impressive Glide once you are up and flying. better than the 1210, and turns also better than the 1210 , but I would not say it goes as fast as my 980.
I'm looking forward to push the tests with both foils at surffoiling... Two really awesome foils.

Alysum
NSW, 886 posts
31 Jan 2022 12:46PM
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Now we can add the ART1099 to the compare

jondrums
113 posts
31 Jan 2022 1:44PM
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darn it, not another wing to buy already ...
I can't quite read the specs - wingspan and area, etc. can anyone post them here?

Camarillo
316 posts
31 Jan 2022 3:03PM
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jondrums said..
darn it, not another wing to buy already ...
I can't quite read the specs - wingspan and area, etc. can anyone post them here?


Wingspan is 1099 mm , AR is 10,6 according to Axis website
Surface=(109,9)^2/10,6=1139cm2

PeterP
761 posts
31 Jan 2022 8:06PM
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jondrums said..
darn it, not another wing to buy already ...
I can't quite read the specs - wingspan and area, etc. can anyone post them here?








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