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Mooloolaba phone call from Waterways.

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Created by Windancer > 9 months ago, 7 Nov 2018
Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
7 Nov 2018 9:51PM
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I recieved a call (call withheld number)from the waterways asking if I'm the owner of "Little lady" My Swanson Dart 22. I said yes...has something happened?(fearing the worst) I was asked is she on a mooring or anchored?
I replied It's a make shift mooring. 110 Kg tractor weight which I can easily pull up and remove once my mooring allocation has been consented. He replied You must anchor your boat.Non registered moorings are not allowed.
I replied well its not a fixed mooring which in my opinion shouldn't be an issue. I would rather that than an anchor.
Bottom line ... this was an argument I wasn't going to win. Lay anchor or cop a $260.00 fine. End of story.
Most disappointed. Not sure what to do. I really don't trust anchors. "Little lady" is lucky to weigh 800kgs if that.

Any suggestions?

AshleyM
QLD, 197 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:09PM
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Throw down an oversize Manson Supreme anchor. It will never move.
My dad's 6 tonne Lotus 950 survived a night of 100 knot wind gusts with an undersized Manson 15 pounder.
Throw down a 25 pounder with heavy chain and you've got an instant mooring that will comply with their silly rules.

Check out the review in the Reviews section: www.mansonanchors.com/

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
7 Nov 2018 11:11PM
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start calling the tractor weight an anchor ??

cazou34
NSW, 146 posts
7 Nov 2018 11:14PM
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I see an anchored boat here, with a 110kg anchor

sunycoastguy
QLD, 222 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:16PM
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Look for the biggest second hand anchor you can find, 30 - 40kg or more if you can handle it, and use that as a mooring
At the end of the day its an "Anchor"

Marekkn
QLD, 14 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:35PM
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What's the definition of anchor and why your tractor thing is not ?

Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:37PM
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AshleyM said..
Throw down an oversize Manson Supreme anchor. It will never move.
My dad's 6 tonne Lotus 950 survived a night of 100 knot wind gusts with an undersized Manson 15 pounder.
Throw down a 25 pounder with heavy chain and you've got an instant mooring that will comply with their silly rules.

Check out the review in the Reviews section: www.mansonanchors.com/


Thanks, but these anchors are worth a fortune.

Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:39PM
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SandS said..
start calling the tractor weight an anchor ??



Yes...what defines an anchor? My argument exactly. If I can pick up the weight with my boat then is it an anchor?
Its not fixed.

Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:39PM
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cazou34 said..
I see an anchored boat here, with a 110kg anchor


Me too!

Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:40PM
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Marekkn said..
What's the definition of anchor and why your tractor thing is not ?


Yes...can anyone answer this question?

Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:41PM
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sunycoastguy said..
Look for the biggest second hand anchor you can find, 30 - 40kg or more if you can handle it, and use that as a mooring
At the end of the day its an "Anchor"


Nice thought but no real room for a big ass anchor on deck or below.

garymalmgren
1105 posts
7 Nov 2018 8:41PM
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Don't resist it, Grasshopper.

Ring the her or him back tomorrow.
Be very polite and thank him or her for his careful attention to yours and the surrounding boats safety.
Inform him that you are in the process of getting a big safe anchor and you will contact her or him back in a couple of days with the results of your complete compliance with his or her quite reasonable request.

Resistance is futile

PS. that is a beautiful boat.

gary

nswsailor
NSW, 1424 posts
7 Nov 2018 11:44PM
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Get another anchor and 5-10m of heavy chain.
Shackle the second anchor chain onto your normal anchor so you have two anchors in line.

So you are at anchor [ but have 2 anchors down, just don't say there are 2!.]

That should work

GKandCC
NSW, 218 posts
7 Nov 2018 11:44PM
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+ the others. You've already got your boat attached to an 'anchor'. Ask the authorities otherwise. If it's a requirement that you can haul up said anchor, tell them you're in the process of replacing the capstan.

Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
7 Nov 2018 10:45PM
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garymalmgren said..
Don't resist it, Grasshopper.

Ring the her or him back tomorrow.
Be very polite and thank him or her for his careful attention to yours and the surrounding boats safety.
Inform him that you are in the process of getting a big safe anchor and you will contact her or him back in a couple of days with the results of your complete compliance with his or her quite reasonable request.

Resistance is futile

PS. that is a beautiful boat.

gary


Yes...you will catch more bees with honey than vinegar. I didn't get a name or contact number. I was a little p%#$ed off.

BlueMoon
865 posts
8 Nov 2018 7:08AM
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The trouble is many people aren't as conscientious as you windancer, and might likely just abandon the temporary mooring if it all gets too hard to retrieve, leaving a nightmare for subsequent boaters trying to anchor there.
An oversized anchor is the way to go

DAMA
QLD, 239 posts
8 Nov 2018 9:11AM
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Throw a second anchor off the stern. all done

sunycoastguy
QLD, 222 posts
8 Nov 2018 8:10PM
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Windancer said..

sunycoastguy said..
Look for the biggest second hand anchor you can find, 30 - 40kg or more if you can handle it, and use that as a mooring
At the end of the day its an "Anchor"



Nice thought but no real room for a big ass anchor on deck or below.


No leave it behind. Tie a fender to it when you go for a sail

BlueMoon
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9 Nov 2018 7:06AM
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sunycoastguy said..

Windancer said..


sunycoastguy said..
Look for the biggest second hand anchor you can find, 30 - 40kg or more if you can handle it, and use that as a mooring
At the end of the day its an "Anchor"




Nice thought but no real room for a big ass anchor on deck or below.



No leave it behind. Tie a fender to it when you go for a sail


Nah, there's enough hard to see hazards like crab pots floating around ready to ruin someone's day than having people reserving their favourite anchoring spot.
if you don't want to spend money on an oversized temporary anchor, that's understandable, you'll only have to try to sell soon anyway, and don't have the onboard storage room for it, invest in Rocna 6 or equivalent with a couple of metres of 10mm chain(that you can remove later) then 20 metres of 6mm high strength chain then 20metres of 12mm nylon as a minimum, set the anchor properly....all good in that location.
Your going to need the anchor anyway which is at the top of the safety equipment list.
Stella job on the restoration, Little Lady looks great.

Windancer
QLD, 106 posts
10 Nov 2018 10:27AM
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Thanks guys.
The other issue is that I use my kayak to paddle out on her.I use the mooring buoy to tie off the kayak. It's obviously not going to be towed behind a daysailer whilst sailing so now I have no where to tie off onto. Which means the only other alternative is to get a small weight or anchor for the kayak or tow it to a public mooring and leave it there.
Getting a little hard after all the effort I have gone through.
Mooring applications are also a catch 22. You can't apply for one unless you have a boat and and you need a mooring if already have a boat.

Mtcoo
1 posts
23 Apr 2019 10:42AM
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On the topic of buoys in Mooloolaba waterways, has anyone applied for a registered mooring through Qld Maritime in the Mooloolaba Pond area, I have a cat I want sit there and wonder if paying the $90 fee to apply will be worthwhile

Charriot
QLD, 875 posts
23 Apr 2019 5:03PM
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My understanding is , an anchored boat must by always attended.
You have done the right thing , Bacause you don't have registered mooring , it is stil anchored,
regadles of shape.
Now, I would change the rope in case of inspection, better keep low profile for now.



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