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Created by theselkie > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
DrogueOne
VIC, 197 posts
4 Dec 2020 9:39AM
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Ok, Can't work out this one. Looks like late IOR early IMS, still got the fat bulge but not the pinched stern. Transom a bit late 70's. I'm thinking the cut-out came later. Interesting double spreader swept fractional rig, perhaps a later update?

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/possibly-john-green-inspired/255185

Wavesong
QLD, 145 posts
4 Dec 2020 12:07PM
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Ok, Can't work out this one. Looks like late IOR early IMS, still got the fat bulge but not the pinched stern. Transom a bit late 70's. I'm thinking the cut-out came later. Interesting double spreader swept fractional rig, perhaps a later update?

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/possibly-john-green-inspired/255185







It kinda loosely reminds me of two Clem Masters-built Quarter Tonners "Jenny M" and "Close Encounter" from the '80s in Brisbane. They definitely didn't have such a massive, spindly rig nor the walk-through transom, though.
Cabin top is a bit S80ish.
Maybe an amateur design and build with scavenged rig?

DrogueOne
VIC, 197 posts
14 Dec 2020 10:13AM
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"We're relocating overseas to become live abourd cruisers and no longer have a need for this boat. Make an offer - we'll probably accept it."

I hope they take better care of their live aboard cruising boat, I wish them success.
Pretty cool way of getting rid of the unwanted starter boat with the usual free boat problems for the new owner.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Dec 2020 12:23PM
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You keep finding them.
Ha Ha

bigskippy
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14 Dec 2020 4:19PM
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Bundeenabuoy said..

bigskippy said..
Hey Saw a nice little Davidson down at Gunyah tonight! Admired that little boat nice one!



Did you get its name?


Something like Spindrift! What happened to your Swanson, you didn't have that for long.

UncleBob
NSW, 1199 posts
14 Dec 2020 7:36PM
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bigskippy said..

Bundeenabuoy said..


bigskippy said..
Hey Saw a nice little Davidson down at Gunyah tonight! Admired that little boat nice one!




Did you get its name?



Something like Spindrift! What happened to your Swanson, you didn't have that for long.


Mabee saw an opportunity to profit from the purchase?

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Dec 2020 7:43PM
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Bundeenabuoy said..



bigskippy said..
Hey Saw a nice little Davidson down at Gunyah tonight! Admired that little boat nice one!





Did you get its name?




Something like Spindrift! What happened to your Swanson, you didn't have that for long.



I had a lot of joy out of my Swanson and can't remember a difficult moment. When Spindrift came up I wanted to devote my time to its, so I decided to sell Audacious. I showed it to two or three genuine buyers and then someone paid me the asking price.
In January it will be heading up to northern NSW and then cruising in the Whitsundays.

jbarnes85
VIC, 283 posts
15 Dec 2020 4:02PM
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This really appeals to me. I love the flat deck and the multi-cockpit.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/baltic-42-dp/255577

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
16 Dec 2020 6:21AM
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This really appeals to me. I love the flat deck and the multi-cockpit.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/baltic-42-dp/255577


A quality boat for sure.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
16 Dec 2020 6:41AM
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UncleBob said..



bigskippy said..




Bundeenabuoy said..





bigskippy said..
Hey Saw a nice little Davidson down at Gunyah tonight! Admired that little boat nice one!







Did you get its name?






Something like Spindrift! What happened to your Swanson, you didn't have that for long.





Mabee saw an opportunity to profit from the purchase?







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bigskippy said..




Bundeenabuoy said..





bigskippy said..
Hey Saw a nice little Davidson down at Gunyah tonight! Admired that little boat nice one!







Did you get its name?






Something like Spindrift! What happened to your Swanson, you didn't have that for long.





Mabee saw an opportunity to profit from the purchase?





I have never bought or sold with the idea of making a profit. The profit seems to come from finding boats that are appealing to me and then buying at the right price. My eye is always, what I can do to make this boat better and this appeals to others who have have then bought the boat from me.

Ramona
NSW, 7404 posts
16 Dec 2020 7:51AM
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Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546

julesmoto
NSW, 1236 posts
16 Dec 2020 10:15AM
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Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546


Why would you put epoxy over alloy on the hull?

julesmoto
NSW, 1236 posts
16 Dec 2020 10:15AM
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Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546


Why would you put epoxy over alloy on the hull?

DrogueOne
VIC, 197 posts
16 Dec 2020 10:48AM
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Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546




not to mention putting the motor in the bow. never seen this before. Good access though.



psychomub
440 posts
16 Dec 2020 10:05AM
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Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546






not to mention putting the motor in the bow. never seen this before. Good access though.





The IOR rule gave large rating benefits for bow down trim.

Why or how anyone would fibreglass over an alloy hull is beyond me.

Ramona
NSW, 7404 posts
16 Dec 2020 5:56PM
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Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546



Why would you put epoxy over alloy on the hull?


Some people need to step away from the epoxy Kool-aid!

The engine up forward counteracts on the crew weight in the cockpit area.

julesmoto
NSW, 1236 posts
16 Dec 2020 7:37PM
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One of those traditional 30s in Tasmania has been for sale for ages for only about 21 grand. Doesn't strike me as a particularly seaworthy design. Probably great for weekends around Pittwater

julesmoto
NSW, 1236 posts
16 Dec 2020 7:37PM
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One of those traditional 30s in Tasmania has been for sale for ages for only about 21 grand. Doesn't strike me as a particularly seaworthy design. Probably great for weekends around Pittwater

lydia
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16 Dec 2020 4:40PM
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One of those traditional 30s in Tasmania has been for sale for ages for only about 21 grand. Doesn't strike me as a particularly seaworthy design. Probably great for weekends around Pittwater


Why do you say that.

julesmoto
NSW, 1236 posts
16 Dec 2020 7:41PM
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Ramona said..

julesmoto said..


Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546




Why would you put epoxy over alloy on the hull?



Some people need to step away from the epoxy Kool-aid!

The engine up forward counteracts on the crew weight in the cockpit area.


I'm thinking somebody probably neglected the electrolytic corrosion for a while and the grp over the hull is the cure. Wonder how you embed things like stainless steel stern glands and the like into an aluminium hull without corrosion. Always seems to create a bit of corrosion around fittings on a mast in the end no matter how careful you are.

julesmoto
NSW, 1236 posts
16 Dec 2020 7:45PM
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lydia said..



julesmoto said..










One of those traditional 30s in Tasmania has been for sale for ages for only about 21 grand. Doesn't strike me as a particularly seaworthy design. Probably great for weekends around Pittwater





Why do you say that.




I'm not quite sure but it just doesn't look quite the right shape to me. Perhaps it looks a bit bathtub-ish like it wouldn't shed water dumped onto the deck and cockpit fast enough. I'm quite happy to be corrected or contradicted however because I have never sailed on one or even known anybody with one.

Ramona
NSW, 7404 posts
17 Dec 2020 8:57AM
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I'm thinking somebody probably neglected the electrolytic corrosion for a while and the grp over the hull is the cure. Wonder how you embed things like stainless steel stern glands and the like into an aluminium hull without corrosion. Always seems to create a bit of corrosion around fittings on a mast in the end no matter how careful you are.


Stern tube and rudder tubes are aluminum. Bearings are plastic. Glands are usually rubber dripless type. My mates aluminum Cole 42 does not have any corrosion whatsoever.

r13
NSW, 1427 posts
17 Dec 2020 9:06AM
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Ramona said..


julesmoto said..



Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546





Why would you put epoxy over alloy on the hull?




Some people need to step away from the epoxy Kool-aid!

The engine up forward counteracts on the crew weight in the cockpit area.



I'm thinking somebody probably neglected the electrolytic corrosion for a while and the grp over the hull is the cure. Wonder how you embed things like stainless steel stern glands and the like into an aluminium hull without corrosion. Always seems to create a bit of corrosion around fittings on a mast in the end no matter how careful you are.


Use Tefgel to isolate stainless fitings from aluminium spars. It is heaps better than the old standard Duralac - it won't go hard and brittle.

www.tefgel.com.au/

DrogueOne
VIC, 197 posts
17 Dec 2020 10:40AM
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Doesn't strike me as a particularly seaworthy design.




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I'm not quite sure but it just doesn't look quite the right shape to me. Perhaps it looks a bit bathtub-ish like it wouldn't shed water dumped onto the deck and cockpit fast enough.



I see it quite differently. To me it is a nice example of a coastal cruiser / cruiser racer of it's era.

Peter Cole, well respected Australian designer who has a lot of boats out there still. One of his later designs, so trapezoidal fin keel & balanced rudder, interesting sheerline with quite a high bow and lots of freeboard. This would prevent water coming across the deck in the first place. Deck is cambered, cockpit has moderate coamings so filling the cockpit is not something I would be concerned about.

Picked by Wavesong as "tidy". From knowing what she sails and her comments on this forum I respect her judgement.

Comparison the numbers with boats I know well.
Two similar length boats I know intimately. Compared to them it is significantly heaver, less powered up and carries beam further aft. To me that says it will be less tender, drier and have better downwind stability. Perhaps not so responsive in light wind but quite stiff when the wind and sea come up. In terms of interior it is bigger and more cruise friendly, though it is a 30fter so you can only get so much.

Seaworthiness is pretty subjective, depends on your purpose I suppose. I like designs that others here would consider less seaworthy but then I don't sail as far from home as they do and have the choice to stay home in bad conditions.




I think the image from sailboatdata does not do it justice, it appears a little "squashed" in the comparison.

Ramona
NSW, 7404 posts
17 Dec 2020 10:47AM
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The Cole Traditional 30 has a cast iron keel and I think this has kept the resale values down. All the other Cole's have lead keels.

bigskippy
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18 Dec 2020 2:39PM
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Ramona said..
The Cole Traditional 30 has a cast iron keel and I think this has kept the resale values down. All the other Cole's have lead keels.


Are they prone the rust are they? Is A lead keel more desirable?

Ramona
NSW, 7404 posts
18 Dec 2020 5:50PM
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Ramona said..
The Cole Traditional 30 has a cast iron keel and I think this has kept the resale values down. All the other Cole's have lead keels.



Are they prone the rust are they? Is A lead keel more desirable?


There is more work with cast iron keels. Lead is more dense and does offer better righting ratios. Cheap yachts have cast iron keels and it shows in resale values. Quality production yachts always have lead keels.

stray
SA, 316 posts
19 Dec 2020 2:28PM
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psychomub said..

DrogueOne said..



Ramona said..
Another gift. Topsides need stripping off and the alloy left bare.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steinman-37-alloy-cruiser-racer/255546







not to mention putting the motor in the bow. never seen this before. Good access though.






The IOR rule gave large rating benefits for bow down trim.

Why or how anyone would fibreglass over an alloy hull is beyond me.


Pretty sure its just epoxy paint.



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