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Created by theselkie > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
2bish
TAS, 805 posts
10 Oct 2020 12:19AM
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I dislike the look of that one, way too heavy and chunky looking for my taste. But each to their own, someone will love it. I think the French often get it wrong with their translations though (just look at all those terrible Vendee Globe interview translations going around at present). I assume they're meaning it's "more than", rather than excessive, but maybe using Excess isn't the best marketing choice for English speaking countries. It reminds me of the old "Pajero" bungle (Spanish slang for wanker ).

Ramona
NSW, 7403 posts
10 Oct 2020 8:03AM
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I doubt whether there would be much wood in the construction unless this is the plug.


www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/busselton/sail-boats/yacht-viking-30-lexcen/1258561474

lydia
1659 posts
10 Oct 2020 3:54PM
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Could be, the very first one was timber
Met the owner who commissioned it a few years back.

r13
NSW, 1427 posts
10 Oct 2020 11:21PM
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Was it moulded off the Miller 32 Fuzzy Duck - see on the 2nd last page of this? With far longer cabin obviously. That hull shape worked well for Gingko and Ciel III / Rampage back in the days but not 1/2 tonners unfortunately.

cyca.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Offshore-February-March-1980.pdf

Cripes if a newsletter with some content like that was compiled nowadays there would be more institutions baying for your blood than I've had Sunday roasts................

Ramona
NSW, 7403 posts
11 Oct 2020 7:41AM
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r13 said..
Was it moulded off the Miller 32 Fuzzy Duck - see on the 2nd last page of this? With far longer cabin obviously. That hull shape worked well for Gingko and Ciel III / Rampage back in the days but not 1/2 tonners unfortunately.

cyca.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Offshore-February-March-1980.pdf

Cripes if a newsletter with some content like that was compiled nowadays there would be more institutions baying for your blood than I've had Sunday roasts................


No, it's a Viking 30. They built lots of them. This could be the plug but it would still be an excellent boat for 5 grand. Comes with a dolley.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/viking/?keywords=30

Ramona
NSW, 7403 posts
11 Oct 2020 5:25PM
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Ramona said..
I doubt whether there would be much wood in the construction unless this is the plug.


www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/busselton/sail-boats/yacht-viking-30-lexcen/1258561474


Sold.

r13
NSW, 1427 posts
11 Oct 2020 5:44PM
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Not trying to be negative to the yacht or seller but this has got to be borderline as regards buy and fix up or leave it and have the owner spend the $5K+ to dispose of it legally............a nice yacht but...............am sure there will be someone out there with the material resources in their shed now, and time on their hands, and a mate to get the donk out and refurbish it, to make a go of this?

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/joubert-pelican-27-ft-yacht-diesel-head-room-fiberglass-yacht/252844

cisco
QLD, 12311 posts
11 Oct 2020 9:10PM
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Another Johnathon Frearson special. Definitely borderline but if it comes with the mooring it may be a good buy for someone in Sydney who just wants to go racing.

john24
84 posts
12 Oct 2020 7:00AM
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With major engine work, new rigging, main bulkhead damage plus internal fitout required it looks like a big job. I have the time but I'd only take on any two of those tasks.
Still Joubert boats seems to have a pretty good reputation, though I can't find any thing on the Pelican design. Anyone have any information on the design?

Yara
NSW, 1250 posts
12 Oct 2020 1:24PM
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john24 said..
With major engine work, new rigging, main bulkhead damage plus internal fitout required it looks like a big job. I have the time but I'd only take on any two of those tasks.
Still Joubert boats seems to have a pretty good reputation, though I can't find any thing on the Pelican design. Anyone have any information on the design?


There have been two different boat in the market recently, including this one, both claiming to be Joubert Pelicans. Would be interested to find out which is the real one.

r13
NSW, 1427 posts
12 Oct 2020 2:08PM
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As per my 20 Mar post see below; initially they had the wedge style cabin as per that one and here

www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1982-joubert-sloop/SSE-AD-6226381/?Cr=1

then went to the fuller cabin higher at the fwd end.



20 Mar 2020 9:40PM





Yes these seem to be very scarce in details on line. Assume you are looking at this............a very honest advert as the photos look more than reasonable to me.....obviously inspection on board needed.............

www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1987-joubert-sloop/SSE-AD-6176317/?Cr=0

A very similar boat to the Supersonic 27. The Pelican initially came out with a very wedge style cabin which didn't do it any favours at all as regards aesthetics or below headroom going forward, and then the more conventional style as in the above link. Some were 2 spreader rigs but most were single spreader. Not sure if Geoff Baker built them or how many were built - guess around 10? - but there have been some old comments in this forum (under other topics eg Compass 28) that they were a good boat and sailed well.


See also here

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Compass-28-or-Joubert-Pelican?page=1

Achernar
QLD, 369 posts
12 Oct 2020 1:09PM
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r13 said..
Was it moulded off the Miller 32 Fuzzy Duck - see on the 2nd last page of this? With far longer cabin obviously. That hull shape worked well for Gingko and Ciel III / Rampage back in the days but not 1/2 tonners unfortunately.

cyca.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Offshore-February-March-1980.pdf

Cripes if a newsletter with some content like that was compiled nowadays there would be more institutions baying for your blood than I've had Sunday roasts................


I checked out the newsletter and now want one of those high-powered Hewlett Packard desktop computer thingies with an eye-watering 256K ram.

Talking of eye-watering numbers, am I reading the prices right on the last page, e.g. 1976 Farr 1105 for $52 m. Is that $52 million or $52 thousand (m = millenia)? Surely its the latter. In 1980 the former is a small country's GDP.

Ramona
NSW, 7403 posts
13 Oct 2020 8:27AM
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If you have a boat trailer laying about in your backyard this is a gift.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/Careel-18ft-trailer-sailor/154137608430?hash=item23e35140ee:g:9h4AAOSwp6ZfhCJw

Ramona
NSW, 7403 posts
13 Oct 2020 8:38AM
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Shame we can't go to WA at the moment!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/augusta/sail-boats/yacht-windrush-wildfire-23ft/1258923256

cisco
QLD, 12311 posts
13 Oct 2020 10:15PM
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^ As you know I had one of these called "Pancho".
Bought it for 10, enjoyed it, sold it for 11.5 to a bloke who sold it for 15.

This one delivered to Bundaberg for $3,500, I will transfer the money right now.

jbarnes85
VIC, 283 posts
20 Oct 2020 6:21PM
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Yes this boat really appeals to me. If I hadn't recently bought my current boat for a similar price I would be having a look

I love the idea of having no windows and a flush deck.
if only it was tiller steering, had a couple of self tailing winches and a dodger because I bet this would be one wet boat.

any idea what it's made from? The inside walls look wooden but that could be decorative or it might be a wooden hull. I would have assumed it was a GRP of the same shape as an EastCost 31 (that's a cole isn't it?)

All@Sea
TAS, 228 posts
21 Oct 2020 11:53PM
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www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/seaforth/sail-boats/careel-22-sail-boat-with-mooring-500/1259548477

Didn't realise they had bulb keels... I know there's nothing more expensive than a cheap boat, but this is interesting nonetheless.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
22 Oct 2020 6:28AM
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This boat is interesting.
I am pretty sure it sat in a berth on C arm at the CYC for years. Many tried to find the owner who was overseas. Eventually sold for $1000 (one thousand) before a lot of cleaning up was done.

Ramona
NSW, 7403 posts
22 Oct 2020 7:59AM
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jbarnes85 said..

Ramona said..

any idea what it's made from? The inside walls look wooden but that could be decorative or it might be a wooden hull. I would have assumed it was a GRP of the same shape as an EastCost 31 (that's a cole isn't it?)


This one is timber. Some were built with 'glass hulls and timber decks or cold molded. The one in the photo has a 'glass hull. Same length as an East Coast 31 and a Nantucket 31 but I think they had more beam aft and probably a better ballast ratio. This one is now on Yacht hub as well and states it's a wood hull, the deck is obviously ply. Buhk diesel with a saildrive.



cisco
QLD, 12311 posts
22 Oct 2020 10:15AM
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All@Sea said..
Didn't realise they had bulb keels... I know there's nothing more expensive than a cheap boat, but this is interesting nonetheless.


That is a radical modification of a Careel 22. The design calls for a centre board case with a cast iron swing keel.
It does not say if that keel is fixed or raisable. Could be a disaster looking for a place to happen.

Yara
NSW, 1250 posts
22 Oct 2020 11:33AM
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cisco said..


All@Sea said..
Didn't realise they had bulb keels... I know there's nothing more expensive than a cheap boat, but this is interesting nonetheless.




That is a radical modification of a Careel 22. The design calls for a centre board case with a cast iron swing keel.
It does not say if that keel is fixed or raisable. Could be a disaster looking for a place to happen.



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There were a few of the fixed keel version made. Not like this! Careels are not renowned for their directional stability, and I bet this one is pretty skittish. Would be interesting to look inside and see how the keel is fastened to the hull.

The mooring spot is OK except for the 69 steps up from water to the road. You have to be fit!

Azure305
NSW, 393 posts
22 Oct 2020 1:41PM
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All@Sea said..
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/seaforth/sail-boats/careel-22-sail-boat-with-mooring-500/1259548477

Didn't realise they had bulb keels... I know there's nothing more expensive than a cheap boat, but this is interesting nonetheless.


Sold!

DrogueOne
VIC, 197 posts
22 Oct 2020 2:59PM
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Very interesting. Wonder if the mod was done to be a twilight killer or because the centreboard case had rotted away and why not..

Picture for those that missed it. At $500 with mooring there will be two happy people today.

BlueMoon
865 posts
26 Oct 2020 5:42AM
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I notice on Peacock photo above and on this Nantucket 31, yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/nantucket-31/250396 there looks to be a tube in the transom, the size of a spinnaker pole, looks quite awkward to get the pole in and out if that's the case.

lydia
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26 Oct 2020 6:03AM
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BlueMoon said..
I notice on Peacock photo above and on this Nantucket 31, yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/nantucket-31/250396 there looks to be a tube in the transom, the size of a spinnaker pole, looks quite awkward to get the pole in and out if that's the case.


No sense of history
what would the hole be for?
check out the stern of defiance as well

r13
NSW, 1427 posts
26 Oct 2020 9:13AM
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To house the danbuoy for the man overboard buoy and horsehoe lifebuoy kit.

jimmygreen.com/799-danbuoys

www.sailingtoday.co.uk/gear/new-gear/mob-rescue-gear-buying-guide/

lydia
1659 posts
26 Oct 2020 6:23AM
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Yep

BlueMoon
865 posts
26 Oct 2020 2:27PM
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Thanks, one of many new things I've learnt today.



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