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A really bad day for someone

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Created by garymalmgren > 9 months ago, 9 Apr 2020
Guitz
VIC, 610 posts
9 Apr 2020 10:35AM
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While the article says he ran aground on Corsair Rock, the video indicates a larger area of shallow water and I would say he's aground on the reef that extends from Point Nepean. The wind wasn't that strong so I'm wondering how he ended up there. There is an easterly set in the tide flow that you have to watch if your sailing in but his GPS plotter should have given him a clear idea of where he was. Perhaps the motor wasn't working?

Isbjorn
36 posts
9 Apr 2020 8:43AM
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Glad he is ok

scaramouche
VIC, 190 posts
9 Apr 2020 11:40AM
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Great rescue
assume engine failure
H28???

scaramouche
VIC, 190 posts
9 Apr 2020 11:40AM
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Great rescue
assume engine failure
H28???

wongaga
VIC, 600 posts
9 Apr 2020 12:24PM
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Guitz said..
While the article says he ran aground on Corsair Rock, the video indicates a larger area of shallow water and I would say he's aground on the reef that extends from Point Nepean. The wind wasn't that strong so I'm wondering how he ended up there. There is an easterly set in the tide flow that you have to watch if your sailing in but his GPS plotter should have given him a clear idea of where he was. Perhaps the motor wasn't working?


Yes it's unlikely a boat that size would touch on Corsair rock, he was most likely somewhere on the Nepean Reef.

On one entry, we saw a yacht which was obviously unfamiliar with the Rip, blithely port-tack-ferry-gliding his way across almost onto the reef before he twigged and tacked back to the west. Even them it took him some time to overcome the easterly set.

Four fingers west for me!

crustysailor
VIC, 869 posts
9 Apr 2020 1:32PM
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I'm glad the guys is safe, and has been rescued.

But beyond that, what part of 'you cant go boating' wasn't understood?

FFS people.

valo
NSW, 305 posts
9 Apr 2020 4:03PM
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Maybe he should have just held on all night and jumped off on the beach Would save him a lot of $$ for the rescue.

All@Sea
TAS, 228 posts
9 Apr 2020 4:15PM
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Regardless of the "stay at home" rules, which are clear as mud, this is the sort incident that A) gives sailors a bad name, and B) makes people think that sailing is a hazardous activity.
Hopefully the pretty little H28 is salvageable, such a seaworthy design shouldn't meet such a fate due to such poor seamanship.

Mike367
VIC, 147 posts
9 Apr 2020 4:53PM
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I've just looked at H28's online, very nice.

MikeyS
VIC, 1506 posts
9 Apr 2020 5:26PM
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"Untitled Placemark" is the position of the yacht according to the chopper camera. The yellow line beneath it is 200m long.

(ignore the location in the bottom left of the screenshot. That was my cursor's position when I took the screenshot.)

stray
SA, 316 posts
9 Apr 2020 5:12PM
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All@Sea said..
Regardless of the "stay at home" rules, which are clear as mud, this is the sort incident that A) gives sailors a bad name, and B) makes people think that sailing is a hazardous activity.
Hopefully the pretty little H28 is salvageable, such a seaworthy design shouldn't meet such a fate due to such poor seamanship.

Totally agree. Result will be control measures to keep us safe from ourselves.

All@Sea
TAS, 228 posts
9 Apr 2020 7:22PM
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Having seen the footage on the TV though - it looked like the rudder had come off, but that's likely a result of the grounding.

wongaga
VIC, 600 posts
9 Apr 2020 7:40PM
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From looking at the the wind and tide at the time , it looks like it should have been pretty straightforward to avoid the rocks with a functioning boat, so loss of rudder might be the reason for his misfortune

garymalmgren
1102 posts
9 Apr 2020 7:01PM
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Thanks Mikey.
looks like a scary location to park the boat.

gary

sirgallivant
NSW, 1529 posts
10 Apr 2020 6:03PM
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I got no idea what was on his mind but besides being a fool he is going to be ruined by the salvage costs and the fine which the terrorists are going to levy on him - quite unnecessarily as a monetary fine never thought anyone anything, yet.
l must suggest, instead - slapping a mask and a pair of gloves on him sending him to look after some sick people in a hospital or clean the wards for a fortnight or two.
That would be useful to all and memorable, as well as educational for him benefiting the community, not just impotently filling the state's coffers.
I despise any authority to levy fines even under normal circumstances let alone in the time of physical danger, moral misery and material hardship.

Datawiz
VIC, 605 posts
10 Apr 2020 7:42PM
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sirgallivant said..
I got no idea what was on his mind but besides being a fool he is going to be ruined by the salvage costs and the fine which the terrorists are going to levy on him - quite unnecessarily as a monetary fine never thought anyone anything, yet.
l must suggest, instead - slapping a mask and a pair of gloves on him sending him to look after some sick people in a hospital or clean the wards for a fortnight or two.
That would be useful to all and memorable, as well as educational for him benefiting the community, not just impotently filling the state's coffers.
I despise any authority to levy fines even under normal circumstances let alone in the time of physical danger, moral misery and material hardship.



Perhaps sirG, given the circumstances he reported (apparently, some problem he decided was sufficient to cancel the trip across Bass Strait and turn around) - what would you have advised?
regards,
allan

woko
NSW, 1514 posts
10 Apr 2020 8:05PM
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Along those lines, this time of year we see an increase of incidence of vessels grounding on the nsw north coast, most usually poorly prepared or utterly unprepared boats, maybe the travel restrictions will deter dodgey cruisers

Seamonkey_H2024
VIC, 344 posts
10 Apr 2020 8:33PM
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Poor bloke! Anyone knowing those waters wouldn't wish any more guilt and harm on this person. Many have died in those waters and it's not for the faint hearted. I'm sure he's going through a lot of emotions.
His timing wasn't great and I'm sure he's now aware of that.
I personally can't wait for all this to be over so I can hit the waters myself.

MuttonBird
VIC, 53 posts
10 Apr 2020 11:15PM
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From watching the video, it appears that the mizzen was sheeted to the top of the rudder post, and the said rudder is now swinging free. So no rudder to enter the Rip - very challenging. I could be wrong, but see what you think.

I reluctantly cancelled a solo jaunt out into the Strait today. The wind and tides were fair, and NIL risk of virus when solo, but I was concerned about getting caught.

Magpieuser
QLD, 46 posts
11 Apr 2020 6:46AM
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The ignorance of workplace matters, skill sets, morale, attitude in the workplace etc shown when someone suggests - "make em work for it, send em to the hospitals to do a job that others apply for and need the money for etc etc" annoys me considerably.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1529 posts
12 Apr 2020 12:51AM
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Ok Don, if the first sentence of my post does not give a clue, well:
stay put, do not be an idiot!

sirgallivant
NSW, 1529 posts
12 Apr 2020 1:33AM
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Magpieuser, under the present circumstances when mass infections are possible in a very short time democracy and bickering, shilly-shallying democratic institutions are best suspended for efficiencies sake and a benevolent dictatorship established for the common good. May be even not so benevolent of a dictatorship.
Do not forget the maxim:
The horse designed by a committee is called the camel !
Firm hand is preferable in case of national emergencies, for everybody's sake.

The levying of fines versus punitive work argument is hard to stomach for some saturated by democrstic ideas but it would not be paid employment, more like - "You'we done harm to society and this is the way you must redeem yourself!" - as the name 'punitive work' suggests.

It is the time when one must be intelligent enough to ask: What can l do for my fellow beings, not what my fellow beings can do for me?

Staying put at home is not that huge sacrifice, after all.






Magpieuser
QLD, 46 posts
12 Apr 2020 9:32AM
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You missed my point mate. Almost any job takes some training and a positive attitude from the worker.

Throwing someone into a job they have no interest in and aren't getting directly paid for simply won't work.

They will cause more trouble than its worth.

In regard to the rest of post - we seem (as a nation) to have gotten this thing under control without any need for whatever it was you were trying to describe.

wongaga
VIC, 600 posts
12 Apr 2020 6:31PM
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Sorry to interrupt the rants and conspiracy theories, but has anyone heard any more about the Nepean Reef grounding?

Datawiz
VIC, 605 posts
12 Apr 2020 7:12PM
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The boat has been recovered by a commercial company and is now in a safe location.
regards,
allan



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