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Pinnaroo Point - proposed licensed restaurant, function centre and bar (2 storey / 913sm)

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Created by WACruizer > 9 months ago, 16 Nov 2020
WACruizer
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19 Apr 2021 1:32PM
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2020/11 CoJ - Minutes of Meeting of Council - Sublease of Crown Land"...following execution of the lease the actual commencement of the sublease will be subject to Sandgate receiving an acceptable Development Approval."

WACruizer
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20 Jul 2021 4:55PM
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Appended letter from CoJ:
...In regards to the playspace and as confirmed through previous conversations the location of the new playspace will not interfere with the beach path access from the parkThe City is able to truncate the dune fencing at the entrance to the two dune access paths to improve visibility.With the removal of the existing playspace the area will be grassed and be able to be used for recreation purposes. (rigging etc)The proposed caf? development at Pinnaroo Point will have internal toilet facilities however it is envisaged that they will only be available for its patrons. The existing public toilets and changeroom will be retained at its existing location.The City is currently in the detailed design phase of the Pinnaroo Point Parking Improvements project which will include reconfiguring the existing carpark layout to 90 degree bays to maximise the number of bays available and upgrading the existing disabled bays at the south-western corner of the carpark to the current standards. This will include your suggestion of removing the unnecessary connector road and returning it to parkland.The City will review the existing gate access to the beach. It does not support a heavy chain gate but will look at redesigning the gate to make it lower to facilitate carry objects over it. The single file access will remain.The fencing works will be completed in September with car park works to take place prior to the end of the financial year. Regards
Michael HamlingManager Operation ServicesCity of Joondalup

CH3MTR4IL5
WA, 309 posts
21 Jul 2021 6:25PM
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Kudos to you mate for your work on this.

my foil thanks you in advance if there is a lower gate!

why are they taking playground out, are they trying to make the toilet hookups less awkward?

WACruizer
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8 Sep 2021 11:51AM
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Pinnaroo Point Beach Park, 20 John Wilkie Tarn, Hillarys - Food and Beverage Facility (Caf?/Restaurant/Tavern)

Published on 08/09/2021





www.joondalup.wa.gov.au/pinnaroo-point-beach-park-20-john-wilkie-tarn-hillarys-food-and-beverage-facility-cafe-restaurant-tavern?nocache=true

Development application number: DA21/0725
The City has received and is currently assessing a planning application Food and Beverage Facility (Caf?/Restaurant/Tavern) at Pinnaroo Point Beach Park, 20 John Wilkie Tarn, Hillarys, and you are invited to comment on the proposal.

A copy of the development plans can be viewed below.

The development includes:

A two storey building, providing casual caf?/kiosk dining on the ground floor and a more formal dining and lounge/bar on the first floor. Function spaces are available on both floors
Approximate patron capacity of 500 people and up to 40 staff
Opening hours between 7.00am to midnight, seven days a week
Open deck and balcony areas to the southern and western aspects of the building
Additional carparking provided in conjunction with a redevelopment of the existing carpark.
You may wish to provide a submission on the proposal, as a written comment, by Wednesday 22 September 2021.

As the development is located on land that is reserved under the Metropolitan Region Scheme, the application is required to be determined by the Western Australian Planning Commission, with the City providing a recommendation on the application.

Submissions can be made via the online Planning Consultation Submission Form below, an email or via post to PO Box 21, Joondalup WA 6919.

Submissions will be considered as part of the overall decision-making process.

You can submit your comments on this planning application using the online form below.

PLANNING CONSULTATION SUBMISSION FORM
www.joondalup.wa.gov.au/community-consultation-on-planning-applications-submission-form?da=DA21/0725&pa=Pinnaroo%20Point%20Beach%20Park,%2020%20John%20Wilkie%20Tarn,%20Hillarys%20%E2%80%93%20Food%20and%20Beverage%20Facility%20(Caf%C3%A9/Restaurant/Tavern)

WACruizer
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8 Sep 2021 12:56PM
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Pinnaroo Point Beach Park, 20 John Wilkie Tarn, Hillarys - Food and Beverage Facility (Caf?/Restaurant/Tavern)

Published on 08/09/2021








www.joondalup.wa.gov.au/pinnaroo-point-beach-park-20-john-wilkie-tarn-hillarys-food-and-beverage-facility-cafe-restaurant-tavern?nocache=true

Development application number: DA21/0725
The City has received and is currently assessing a planning application Food and Beverage Facility (Caf?/Restaurant/Tavern) at Pinnaroo Point Beach Park, 20 John Wilkie Tarn, Hillarys, and you are invited to comment on the proposal.

A copy of the development plans can be viewed below.

The development includes:

A two storey building, providing casual caf?/kiosk dining on the ground floor and a more formal dining and lounge/bar on the first floor. Function spaces are available on both floors
Approximate patron capacity of 500 people and up to 40 staff
Opening hours between 7.00am to midnight, seven days a week
Open deck and balcony areas to the southern and western aspects of the building
Additional carparking provided in conjunction with a redevelopment of the existing carpark.
You may wish to provide a submission on the proposal, as a written comment, by Wednesday 22 September 2021.

As the development is located on land that is reserved under the Metropolitan Region Scheme, the application is required to be determined by the Western Australian Planning Commission, with the City providing a recommendation on the application.

Submissions can be made via the online Planning Consultation Submission Form below, an email or via post to PO Box 21, Joondalup WA 6919.

Submissions will be considered as part of the overall decision-making process.

You can submit your comments on this planning application using the online form below.

PLANNING CONSULTATION SUBMISSION FORM
www.joondalup.wa.gov.au/community-consultation-on-planning-applications-submission-form?da=DA21/0725&pa=Pinnaroo%20Point%20Beach%20Park,%2020%20John%20Wilkie%20Tarn,%20Hillarys%20%E2%80%93%20Food%20and%20Beverage%20Facility%20(Caf%C3%A9/Restaurant/Tavern)





Parking Plan extracts:
"...22 new bays to accommodate the additional patrons anticipated to resort to the Pinnaroo Point locality to utilise the new amenity."

"...The Applicant submits that daytime visitors will use both the beach and the kiosk/caf? amenity and are therefore catered to by the current parking."

"The different demographics to use the amenity during the day and in the evening, will mean that there will be...
low to no parking requirement in the evening for beachgoers."

FYI: Caitlin Collins MLA - Member for Hillarys
Caitlin.Collins@mp.wa.gov.au

cbulota
WA, 1341 posts
15 Sep 2021 4:02PM
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Hi all,

We got a chance to sit down and meet the future owners/operators and the promoter of the Hillarys Beach Club project.

They are well aware of the parking issues. As I understand it, the current parking will be re-designed to add more bays on top of the additional bays next to the building. I don't have the exact number but I believe that should bring around 150 or more car park spaces in total. As pointed out by others, when the wind is up, you'll typically only find kitesufers/windsurfers/wind wingers at Pinnaroo. They also pointed out that there is lots of parking in the nearby dog beach further south.

I suppose the cafe/restaurant will busier in the warm summer mornings with families heading to the beach and perhaps in the evenings with customers dining in or going for a beer.

They are also welcoming all crowds including kitesufers/windsurfers/wind wingers. The great thing is that we'll be able to grab a cafe and food on the go without having to dine in. We'll also be able to enjoy post session beers which I believe will help to bring our community closer together. We'll also be able to organize social events, movie nights, etc.

I was told that if it all goes accord to plan, building should start in Autumn 2022 and be completed by the start of Summer 2022.

They invite you to support this project by filling in this form before September 22 : www.joondalup.wa.gov.au/community-consultation-on-planning-applications-submission-form?da=DA21/0725&pa=Pinnaroo%20Point%20Beach%20Park,%2020%20John%20Wilkie%20Tarn,%20Hillarys%20%E2%80%93%20Food%20and%20Beverage%20Facility%20(Caf%C3%A9/Restaurant/Tavern)

You can also contact the promoter directly with questions / concerns / feedback. Mario Sequeira mario@hospitalitytotalservices.com.au

Christian

Obelix
WA, 953 posts
20 Sep 2021 5:40PM
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The proposal lists additional 22 parking spaces. If you look at the picture, you can count them - these 22 are next to the new facility. The rest is redesigned from the current layout. Around 127-128 on the current parking plus these 22.
So 150 in total.
According to their calculations,the increase is at around 100+ patrons on the parking. They forgot to add the staff parking ("up to 40 staff"). Let's say 12-15 at any time.
That's 3/4 of the parking full.

To be realistic, we may not be able to stop the development, but should insist on more parking.

The comment about the horse/dog beach is not realistic. Maybe they should ask their staff to park there?




WACruizer
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20 Sep 2021 7:50PM
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Obelix said..

The proposal lists additional 22 parking spaces. If you look at the picture, you can count them - these 22 are next to the new facility. The rest is redesigned from the current layout. Around 127-128 on the current parking plus these 22.
So 150 in total.
According to their calculations,the increase is at around 100+ patrons on the parking. They forgot to add the staff parking ("up to 40 staff"). Let's say 12-15 at any time.
That's 3/4 of the parking full.

To be realistic, we may not be able to stop the development, but should insist on more parking.

The comment about the horse/dog beach is not realistic. Maybe they should ask their staff to park there?






I think it is fair to discount the reconfiguration gains - vehicles currently park in spots that would be illegal (read: costly) when routine parking patrols commence by necessity.
Current busy time verge-parking, kerb-side and double parking would add up to 50-100 spaces. So the re-configuration gain + extra parking (lets be generous) is 70 - 80 spots. That should cover the staff and Playspace patrons adequately. The patrons and water sport enthusiast will have to fight it out for the rest.

Clue Thirst
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21 Sep 2021 7:06PM
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So if this gets out of hand what other options are there? Anyone launced from Hillarys Boat Harbour (north side) or Whitfords node park?



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