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Ion Apex harness

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Created by dp2012 9 months ago, 26 Sep 2019
dp2012
QLD, 3 posts
26 Sep 2019 11:14AM
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I bought an Ion apex harness in March this year and have had so many problems I no longer use it. The hook snapped, the buckles are corroded and won't tighten and I accidentally unhook on occasion as the hook isn't raked back enough. Anyone else having these issues? I for one will never buy another harness by ion and would advise anyone not to.

sassyk
WA, 9 posts
26 Sep 2019 11:05AM
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I have a Riot Curv 9 harness and no joke the straps came undone as I was riding along in stormy weather. The whole kite, bar and harness just flew over the dunes and I had to spend an hour digging around in bushes to find it again. I was not impressed in the slightest

daniel_y
WA, 90 posts
26 Sep 2019 12:15PM
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The hook snapped? That's pretty extreme - do you have any photos? Did you get it replaced under warranty?

I've had Ion harnesses including the Apex for the last five years or so, haven't had any major issues. Never had any corrosion on the buckles - do you rinse the harness in freshwater?

KitersElbow
WA, 77 posts
29 Sep 2019 7:58PM
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I was just looking over my 2014ish ion apex in detail. It's had ~5 seasons of lots of use, and shows no signs of corrosion, nor have i ever had any accidental unhooks...which was a real issue with my previous griffin harness. I did just buy a new ride engine - saw a great deal on a 2018 - but I know my ion apex has lots more service in it. I would most definitely buy ion again

grouchytiger
NSW, 16 posts
30 Sep 2019 9:03AM
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I bought an Ion apex in 2011 and in 2016 the metal buckle broke during a jump and later (after the self-rescue back to shore) I saw that it had been corroded. I used the harness quite a lot during the 5 years and apart from the corroded buckle it was still in fairly good condition.

dp2012
QLD, 3 posts
30 Sep 2019 11:15AM
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Photo of broken hook, it was replaced by warranty. I wash all my gear in fresh water. I've got no beef with any kite company, I just want gear that works..

Falco
90 posts
30 Sep 2019 11:30AM
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I've got an ion wave harness bought for $150 on sale old stock lasted 6 seasons could probably get a couple more out of it but will replace this year. Pretty unlucky mate most harnesses are pretty solid these days I had a dakine harness before my ion and that was good for 6 seasons to, I kept it as a back up harness.

doonut
WA, 241 posts
30 Sep 2019 2:06PM
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I have the same harness, have been using it since last season with no issues.
All buckles will end up corroding its the weak point of all harnesses.
I have heard the hook snapping before, I think there was another post on here about it?

acitta
VIC, 152 posts
2 Dec 2019 11:47AM
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I have the same harness, snapped the hook after 3 months and corrosion on all metal hinges after maybe 3 sessions (not seasons!). Really disappointed. Hook has just been replaced under warranty and is meant to be a better build. The harness is more comfy than others I've had but I'll stay clear in the future

daggy
WA, 504 posts
7 Dec 2019 2:12PM
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Yep. Bent the hook which lead to an accidental unhooking. Unfortunately my safety snapped and the whole thing took off across the beach towards the trees. But luckily stopped on the sand.
My two left side straps are both half worn where they sit in the buckles. And these buckles are corroded, weirdly the other side looks good.
The harness was bought in February so is only 9 months old including a winter of occasional use only.
My service from my local shop was excellent. He's replaced the hook with a new beefed up version and given me 4 new buckles to fit. My straps however were knocked back by ion. Apparently its my fault for not washing my harness in fresh water.
Ive only been kiting 18 years and never had this problem before. I'll not touch ion again.

dp2012
QLD, 3 posts
28 Apr 2020 5:27PM
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What a surprise. Ion issues a recall on their apex harness hooks. Finally admit to making a dangerous, substandard product.


BPBPerth
WA, 17 posts
28 Apr 2020 4:38PM
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dp2012 said..
What a surprise. Ion issues a recall on their apex harness hooks. Finally admit to making a dangerous, substandard product.



Do you have the link to the article?
The "Harness Recall" link on the bottom of their website takes me to their privacy statement.

zlatko
6 posts
28 Apr 2020 4:51PM
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@BPBPerth here is the link: www.ion-products.com/special-pages/footer-content/harness-recall/

BPBPerth
WA, 17 posts
28 Apr 2020 5:25PM
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Awesome, thank you.

tuney
WA, 4 posts
1 May 2020 2:02PM
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Very interesting guys, I had a snapped hook this week, on my ion Radar seat harness, You can see from the top shaft it looks like it's been rusting a while, and I will confess I'm not the best one for rinsing every time, will do in future!! But harness aprox 1 year old, so I will go back to where I purchased it, but all these comments make me think I should try a different brand, shame as the radar is very comfortable, I probably stressed it boosting as I'm not the lightest.
my welding friend said that as the bend is so near the weld, heating up the metal would create a possible weak spot in that location, and that's where the bend is.
I tried to replace the hook but two of the captive nuts have come away so now it needs the whole spreader bar assembly.
We do put our gear through some pretty rough treatment and I will give this part to the dealer who can give feedback to ion so hopefully can address any future weak spots.


tuney
WA, 4 posts
1 May 2020 2:11PM
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Just reading the recall notice, it looks like ion are doing the right thing, so I will stick with the radar with the new hook.

AUS 808
WA, 317 posts
1 May 2020 2:42PM
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tuney said..

my welding friend said that as the bend is so near the weld, heating up the metal would create a possible weak spot in that location, and that's where the bend is.


Complete opposite, welding actually anneals (softens) the metal in the Heat Affected Zone.
Stainless Steel work hardens, every time you load it up it bends slightly & gets harder & harder to the point where it will snap.
Cold bending while manufacturing will also harden the hook & the tighter the bend the worse it is.

Good that they are re-calling them anyway.

Pilz
WA, 39 posts
2 May 2020 5:02AM
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tuney said..
Very interesting guys, I had a snapped hook this week, on my ion Radar seat harness, You can see from the top shaft it looks like it's been rusting a while, and I will confess I'm not the best one for rinsing every time, will do in future!! But harness aprox 1 year old, so I will go back to where I purchased it, but all these comments make me think I should try a different brand, shame as the radar is very comfortable, I probably stressed it boosting as I'm not the lightest.
my welding friend said that as the bend is so near the weld, heating up the metal would create a possible weak spot in that location, and that's where the bend is.
I tried to replace the hook but two of the captive nuts have come away so now it needs the whole spreader bar assembly.
We do put our gear through some pretty rough treatment and I will give this part to the dealer who can give feedback to ion so hopefully can address any future weak spots.



Hey Tuney you need to slow down a touch you going too hard.....



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