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Duotone Click Safety Line

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Created by Leighbreeze 8 months ago, 7 Feb 2020
Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
7 Feb 2020 9:42AM
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Thread not intended to bash a brand.
Anyone else had problems with Duotone click bar Safety Line breaking in near top end of black plastic casing.
Lines about 4 months old.
one mate snapped his resulting in kite release only rolled down the beach a few times.Lucky.
Have since had another mate replace his with a different safety line.
Something rubbing safety line inside top end of black tubing near velro thing below throw adjuster.
Worth checking your for your own safety.!!!!

weebitbreezy
482 posts
7 Feb 2020 5:57PM
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I haven't had it happen but its a common problem with all sleeved safety lines.

I did hear people suggest a length of heatshrink in this area to prevent wear although I haven't checked it myself as I'd be a little worried about the extra diameter stopping the flag out working properly. Might try it to see what its like when I come to replace my lineset. That way if its no good I don't have to work out how to get the heat shrink off without damaging the line.

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
7 Feb 2020 10:51PM
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Blue line in the photo is a replacement from a chandelier.
There must be something abrasive rubbing the red safety line on the inside of black rectangular tubing.
They should last longer than a few months.

hosh
WA, 190 posts
10 Feb 2020 10:58AM
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LeighMajor said..
Thread not intended to bash a brand.
Anyone else had problems with Duotone click bar Safety Line breaking in near top end of black plastic casing.
Lines about 4 months old.
one mate snapped his resulting in kite release only rolled down the beach a few times.Lucky.
Have since had another mate replace his with a different safety line.
Something rubbing safety line inside top end of black tubing near velro thing below throw adjuster.
Worth checking your for your own safety.!!!!


Good to see you putting it out there mate. Could save someone some grief.

omg
176 posts
10 Feb 2020 8:46PM
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is the damage exactly in the place where the black depower tubing meets the part with the velcro ie. is the plastic depower tube sharp at the end?
Mine has no wear and I've used it a quite a bit. I waxed it with candle wax, don't know if it does anything but not worse either I'm sure.

railbanger
WA, 39 posts
11 Feb 2020 10:47AM
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Yes, looks like you have a wear spot in that location from your tubing. Not normal based on my experience with the Click Bar but I understand some others have this same issue.

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
12 Feb 2020 8:00AM
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Omg yes that's appears to be the wear position.
Not sure wax would help.
We have several bar bought at the similar time with this safety line wear issue in that same location.
Waiting for a warranty ATM.?

Aj1988
1 posts
30 Mar 2020 8:12AM
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Mine snapped yesterday in the exact same spot. I lost the ball at the end that holds the safety line and had to swim to shore and then chase the kite down the beach. Bar is only 1 year old but I don't live in an area with trade winds so it doesn't see heaps of action

9 Apr 2020 8:51AM
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Did you have the Y divider on the center lines or were you using it with out the Y divider just asking

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
14 Apr 2020 11:35PM
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In regards to the y divider.Two of my friends were using the low vee.
which seemed to increase the wear on the safety line where it enters the Velcro thing at the top of the black square tubing.
As the shop pointed out that Duotone says it can be used as low or high vee.
Imo that there is excessive increased wear On the safety line with a low vee arrangement.
So Doutone should not recommend this use of running a low vee and replace On warranty the worn safety lines.

16 Apr 2020 7:25PM
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When ever i recommend the low v ,I shift the v or y divider down to the bottom near the end of the PU bit of a hassle but stops any wear , and i agree they dont seem to mention to do this anywhere . But I'm pretty sure duotone would look after the problem on both those lines
hope this helps
George

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
17 Apr 2020 9:02AM
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Hey George
Yes that's a good call lowering the Y divider just above the entry into the top .
And yes our supplier put in a warranty claim for the guys that developed a problem with the safety line low vee option.

railbanger
WA, 39 posts
21 Apr 2020 7:04AM
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How do you lower the Y divider past the red stopper ball ?

omg
176 posts
21 Apr 2020 5:22PM
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railbanger said..
How do you lower the Y divider past the red stopper ball ?


I just removed it, because sometime one of the steering lines got wrapped around it when launching.

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
23 Apr 2020 7:25AM
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Omg as George from Adventure sports mentioned by lowering the vee or y down to just above the depower black tubing that will minimise wear on your safety line .By doing that the safety line enters the tubing more parallel reducing the wearing problem.
BTWay my friends two safety lines and black depower tubing were replaced by Duotone under warranty.

26 Apr 2020 7:06PM
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railbanger said..
How do you lower the Y divider past the red stopper ball ?


If your really keen you can take the safety line off from the bar end and thread it through the Y divider it only takes 10 mins and leaves the stopper ball on
Myself i reverse the Y divider ( put it on the red line) and use it as a stopper this lets me use both lines for landing and 5th line relaunching during lessons
Hope this helps
George

wishy
WA, 1465 posts
3 May 2020 9:07PM
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Does anyone actually use their trim? Ive never pulled any on. Click bar is cool, but only if you actually depower your kite more than once a year.

wave6ft
QLD, 133 posts
29 May 2020 8:03PM
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My click bar today big swim in






Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
30 May 2020 12:32AM
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Arrr bugger.
Still under warranty?

apepene43
QLD, 110 posts
30 May 2020 1:25AM
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No about 15 months old

neldy
QLD, 20 posts
30 May 2020 11:04AM
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apepene43 said..
No about 15 months old


how often do you use it?
did you rinse out the trim system after each session?

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
1 Jun 2020 8:42PM
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apepene43 said..
No about 15 months old


Hi mate
That bar end looks like a 2017 North click bar?
If so that's a few years old?
So normal wear and tear would be expected especially on the front lines.

apepene43
QLD, 110 posts
2 Jun 2020 2:46AM
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LeighMajor said..


apepene43 said..
No about 15 months old




Hi mate
That bar end looks like a 2017 North click bar?
If so that's a few years old?
So normal wear and tear would be expected especially on the front lines.



It's a 2018 actually and I bought it brand new in the box 15 months ago of a retailer just new old stock I had a 2017 before that and was pretty well looked after before this I've ordered a new click bar but a lot of money to spend again I've never had this in any other bar I've had in 9 years I think I'll sell now every 12 months so no way normal wear and tear 15 months for 900 don't think so mate

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
2 Jun 2020 8:02PM
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Ok mate I would run it by your retailer to see what he reckons.

SimonM
WA, 89 posts
2 Jun 2020 6:57PM
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Purchased this one new in march.. 10 to 15 sessions in...


Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
3 Jun 2020 8:45AM
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SimonM said..
Purchased this one new in march.. 10 to 15 sessions in...



Check with your retailer Simon for a warranty claim.
My friends had the same wear on the red safety line
and had the two front lines replaced including the Black depower square tubing.
Safety lines Should not fail that quickly.

SimonM
WA, 89 posts
9 Jun 2020 11:38AM
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Apparently duotone refused the warranty, but WA surf sorted me out with new safety . I'll have a look to see if i can find the cause

Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
9 Jun 2020 9:10PM
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SimonM said..
Apparently duotone refused the warranty, but WA surf sorted me out with new safety . I'll have a look to see if i can find the cause


Hi Simon
If you go back in the post,George from Adventure Sports has a plan when you use a low vee or Y on the front lines.
He suggests lowering the vee adjuster screw knob lower to just above the PU black tubing.
That reduces the vee angle of front lines into the PU black tubing which reduces wear.
Keep an eye on the safety line wear in that area.

SimonM
WA, 89 posts
9 Jun 2020 8:19PM
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Thanks, it's a good idea, but i only use a mid Y with the duotone thread-thru eye thing. The wear I have is at the other end of the black tubing.

Still not fixed, the replacement part i got isn't quite right. :(

The cause is that the end of the black plastic tubing has a sharp edge that lines up with where the splice tapers thicker. That has just been rubbing away inside there when presumably tension comes on and off the line. I've carefully shaved a chamfer in the end of the tube to hopefully stop it happening again.






SimonM
WA, 89 posts
9 Jun 2020 8:25PM
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Here is a pic of the chamfer added


Leighbreeze
NSW, 435 posts
10 Jun 2020 12:43AM
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Well done .That should be better.
So you think Duotone would consider a warranty if they realised it is a manufacture issue?
Its not the users fault.
Where is their duty of care responsibilities?
Its a safety line?
Just to be safe I will be checking our Click bar safety lines regularly in that area and doing what Simon has done.



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