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Chrono or Hyperlink

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Created by Narrak 23 days ago, 11 Mar 2020
Narrak
WA, 52 posts
11 Mar 2020 7:19PM
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Ok, at risk of receiving more information than I can digest, I have a question. First - been foiling for 12months (sporadically due to work) and have primarily been using a 9m HL. I ride a 125 Axis Carbon Free and a 600 wing on a 900 mast.

I have absolutely no desire to race and my other board is an underground Kipuna (no TT).

Second - my quiver will consist of a 6m Alpha, 10m Alpha and a ?????
I am considering a 13m Foil kite but I am concerned about it being too slow in the turns.

Not interested in hearing about other brands. Want to hear from people that know the V2 HL & V3 Chrono. TIA.

ActionSportsWA
WA, 762 posts
12 Mar 2020 2:15PM
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Hi Narrak,

I think you can probably write all the people with HL2 and Chrono3 experience names on a postage stamp with a 4" paintbrush. You may need to be a little less strict in your parameters to get ANY feedback.

We haven't sold any HL2 or Chrono3 in our store. The Hyperlink turns pretty reasonably for it's size but in light winds the large sizes will be sluggish. I know you don't want to hear of alternatives, but it may well be in your best interest to explore outside of Ozone if looking for specialty light wind kites.

Other than the Hyperlink, most big foil kites tend to get their power from apparent wind and high aspect designs like Chrono, Soul, Sonic 3, etc. This will mean slower turning but fantastic light wind ability when ridden with a bit of pace. Chrono is not far off race kite performance so don't expect agile, crisp performance in large sizes.

For light wind foiling, an open mind to things like the Flysurfer Peak4, BRM Clouds or dare I say the Aluula kites?

Steve from Ozone may be able to shine a bit of light on your original request as I reckon he'd be the only one with the experience you are looking for.

DM.

snalberski
WA, 700 posts
12 Mar 2020 7:08PM
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Ive been foilboarding and tting with 7m, 9m and 12m UL Hyperlinks for the last 2 years. Last year I demoed a 10m Alpha which I really liked.
Over the course of this season the only 2 kites I have used is 9m Amp and my 12m UL Hyperlink. The Amp which I use for powered looping tt sessions doesn't start working till 20+knts so consequently over this season the amp has been used no more the 12-15 times out of probably 80 sessions . The remainder were all with Hyperlink. With the 12m Hyperlink I can have satisfying foilboarding boosting sessions in as low as 12-14 knts an up to high teens. When it gets to consistent solid high teens the Hyperlink with a TT is superfun with high floaty boosts. For me the 12m Hyperlink is not only the ultimate session saver the figures tell me it is my main kite. Of course is flies a differently to a LEI but with a wide bar and 15m lines any perceived sluggishness can be minimised.
I think with 6m, 10m Alpha and a 13 Hyperlink you would have an awesome quiver... one I'd like myself, with the addition of a 9m Amp!

Narrak
WA, 52 posts
12 Mar 2020 8:58PM
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snalberski said..
Ive been foilboarding and tting with 7m, 9m and 12m UL Hyperlinks for the last 2 years. Last year I demoed a 10m Alpha which I really liked.
Over the course of this season the only 2 kites I have used is 9m Amp and my 12m UL Hyperlink. The Amp which I use for powered looping tt sessions doesn't start working till 20+knts so consequently over this season the amp has been used no more the 12-15 times out of probably 80 sessions . The remainder were all with Hyperlink. With the 12m Hyperlink I can have satisfying foilboarding boosting sessions in as low as 12-14 knts an up to high teens. When it gets to consistent solid high teens the Hyperlink with a TT is superfun with high floaty boosts. For me the 12m Hyperlink is not only the ultimate session saver the figures tell me it is my main kite. Of course is flies a differently to a LEI but with a wide bar and 15m lines any perceived sluggishness can be minimised.
I think with 6m, 10m Alpha and a 13 Hyperlink you would have an awesome quiver... one I'd like myself, with the addition of a 9m Amp!


Thanks Snalberski. I have previously been happy with my 8m HL and 8/10 m Enduros. Change of disciplines has led me down this path with my primary ride being on my foil. I think the 13m V2 HL is the answer to round things out.

PrfctChaos
WA, 35 posts
13 Mar 2020 6:30AM
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Hi Narrak,

9m chrono V3 is one of my main and favourite kites, used often for hydrofoil (usually use it when wind is light on surffoil or with a fast hydrofoil when on flat water). I have flown a 9m hyperlink v2 back to back with the chronov3 only once, and v1 back to back a few times.

Would happily choose either as my light wind kite (9m is largest kite I want. On a side note, maybe worth keeping your 9m hyperlink as largest kite and just adding a sudffoil for when it gets light. I dont think any 13m will turn fast). Both the chrono and hyperlink handle, turn and depower extremely well in my opinion, even when flying through the middle of window (main reasons I prefer these to souls). Im used to peaks and wave kites, so cannot tolerate slow turning kites, these turn really well for closed cell foils. I found both the chrono and hyperlink to feel pretty similar at the bar.

The chrono will be faster, but i dont have numbers to compare. Theoretically the hyperlink might be more stable, with its thicker profile, but then again it is already pretty difficult to make the chrono misbehave.

So sorry i cant give you any clear differences between the two. But since you are looking at 13m I would assume you are interrested in using it in the very lightest winds. If money is no object I would personally choose the chrono v3 in ultralight fabric, since its extra speed / efficiency might be most usefull in the lightest wind. But if you are not very interrested in going fast, then you will likely have just as good a time and save money going for the hyperlink v2 (they are already ultralight cloth).

The only real downsides i see to the chrono is that it is quite a bit more expensive than the hyperlink (and then add on ultralight cloth) and without a fast hydrofoil the higher speed might not be used / necessary. Hyperlink might be a bit easier to use for first foil kite, but that doesn't apply to you.

Narrak
WA, 52 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:42PM
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PrfctChaos said..
Hi Narrak,

9m chrono V3 is one of my main and favourite kites, used often for hydrofoil (usually use it when wind is light on surffoil or with a fast hydrofoil when on flat water). I have flown a 9m hyperlink v2 back to back with the chronov3 only once, and v1 back to back a few times.

Would happily choose either as my light wind kite (9m is largest kite I want. On a side note, maybe worth keeping your 9m hyperlink as largest kite and just adding a sudffoil for when it gets light. I dont think any 13m will turn fast). Both the chrono and hyperlink handle, turn and depower extremely well in my opinion, even when flying through the middle of window (main reasons I prefer these to souls). Im used to peaks and wave kites, so cannot tolerate slow turning kites, these turn really well for closed cell foils. I found both the chrono and hyperlink to feel pretty similar at the bar.

The chrono will be faster, but i dont have numbers to compare. Theoretically the hyperlink might be more stable, with its thicker profile, but then again it is already pretty difficult to make the chrono misbehave.

So sorry i cant give you any clear differences between the two. But since you are looking at 13m I would assume you are interrested in using it in the very lightest winds. If money is no object I would personally choose the chrono v3 in ultralight fabric, since its extra speed / efficiency might be most usefull in the lightest wind. But if you are not very interrested in going fast, then you will likely have just as good a time and save money going for the hyperlink v2 (they are already ultralight cloth).

The only real downsides i see to the chrono is that it is quite a bit more expensive than the hyperlink (and then add on ultralight cloth) and without a fast hydrofoil the higher speed might not be used / necessary. Hyperlink might be a bit easier to use for first foil kite, but that doesn't apply to you.


Thanks for the info. Appreciate the feedback from your experience.
I had a chat with Gunnar Biniasch via messenger about this as well and, given that I am just free styling, he recommended the HL over the Chrono as he said it is faster turning and easier relaunch (if dropped which I don't often do anymore). Adding the lighter weight material than the standard Chrono and the variables in cost, it makes a whole lot of sense for an old bloke that has no interest in going fast.

KPSS Used
NSW, 265 posts
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21 Mar 2020 12:41PM
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Sorry I missed this. I have both the 13M Chrono3 UL and Hyperlink V2 13M and would definitely recommend the HL over the Chrono for what you have asked about. Call me if you want to discuss 0433323299



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