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Whats the opposite of "park and ride"?

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Created by montoya 4 months ago, 2 Mar 2019
montoya
VIC, 18 posts
2 Mar 2019 6:49PM
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Ok... sounds like a dumb question but here goes... many kite descriptions refer to "park and ride". I think I know what that means. name kind of gives it away. but what exactly is the opposite? do you need to sine and move the kite constantly to keep it flying? why? how much? if u stop does it fall out of sky? can you still park and ride a kite with low p&r rating? i see this mainly for more advanced and c-type kites? whats the advantage.
thanks

hilly
WA, 4669 posts
2 Mar 2019 5:00PM
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Powered strapped riding. Directional or twintip. Fast moving kite you follow. Sort of like this.

Sandfoot
VIC, 347 posts
2 Mar 2019 8:02PM
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Park and ride means park your car and go for a ride !!

nah, pretty sure means kite sits in one spot while it's flying and you can ride along and pull off what ever tricks you want

Plummet
4477 posts
3 Mar 2019 12:09AM
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This.

montoya
VIC, 18 posts
3 Mar 2019 3:24PM
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Wow. I've never seen a kite flown like that! perhaps i should stick with park and ride kites on my tt or surfboard.

Chris_M
1761 posts
3 Mar 2019 3:48PM
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Don't 'park and ride' kites work a little more off the bar? In saying that I mean sheeting in or out will help to give you the power (or depower) you need to keep riding along.

Kites that are not park and ride require a little more active input - to increase power you'd need to do a few sines.

So the kites that are more bow shaped would be more likely advertised as park and ride and c kites need more sine-ing.

At least, that's what I have always thought.....

jms
NSW, 121 posts
4 Mar 2019 9:09AM
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Chris_M said..
Don't 'park and ride' kites work a little more off the bar? In saying that I mean sheeting in or out will help to give you the power (or depower) you need to keep riding along.

Kites that are not park and ride require a little more active input - to increase power you'd need to do a few sines.

So the kites that are more bow shaped would be more likely advertised as park and ride and c kites need more sine-ing.

At least, that's what I have always thought.....


Yup, that was my understanding too.

Park and ride = low aspect ratio, instant power/depower when you pull or let out the bar, smaller wind range, can concentrate on surfing, more stable in the sky.Not park and ride = higher aspect ratio, low pull until you sine the kite a bit, harder to turn the power off, larger wind range, needs more input, more likely to rush to the edge of the wind window.

So surf kites are usually park and ride style so you can concentrate on the wave and get instant power/depower , and jumping kites are usually the opposite.

Plummet
4477 posts
4 Mar 2019 3:32PM
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jms said..

Chris_M said..
Don't 'park and ride' kites work a little more off the bar? In saying that I mean sheeting in or out will help to give you the power (or depower) you need to keep riding along.

Kites that are not park and ride require a little more active input - to increase power you'd need to do a few sines.

So the kites that are more bow shaped would be more likely advertised as park and ride and c kites need more sine-ing.

At least, that's what I have always thought.....



Yup, that was my understanding too.

Park and ride = low aspect ratio, instant power/depower when you pull or let out the bar, smaller wind range, can concentrate on surfing, more stable in the sky.Not park and ride = higher aspect ratio, low pull until you sine the kite a bit, harder to turn the power off, larger wind range, needs more input, more likely to rush to the edge of the wind window.

So surf kites are usually park and ride style so you can concentrate on the wave and get instant power/depower , and jumping kites are usually the opposite.


I disagree. Its a about riding style not the kite. If anything high aspect are more park and ride than low aspect as they turn slower,

I have kites across the spectrum from stupid high aspect foil race kite to stupid low aspect trainer kite and everything in between. I fly them all active style as that's what I like.

Chris_M
1761 posts
5 Mar 2019 2:49PM
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Sheet and go = park and ride?

Richoa
NSW, 472 posts
6 Mar 2019 9:59PM
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Chris_M said..
Sheet and go = park and ride?


Here i was thinking sheet and go required applicable wind strength.

snalberski
WA, 630 posts
8 Mar 2019 2:16PM
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montoya said..
but what exactly is the opposite?


Loop and crash

cauncy
WA, 7300 posts
8 Mar 2019 3:44PM
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Suck n Furk

bigtone667
NSW, 1036 posts
12 Mar 2019 7:59AM
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Boost and crash

causehecan
185 posts
16 Jun 2019 7:11PM
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Kook n boot

Chris_M
1761 posts
19 Jun 2019 4:00AM
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Newb n gopro



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