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Show me new mutants or the latest "directional optimised TTs"

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Created by Plummet 6 months ago, 22 Apr 2019
CJ2478
NSW, 373 posts
17 Sep 2019 11:49AM
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Reckon we can get an update?

Plummet
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18 Sep 2019 8:51AM
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CJ2478 said..

Plummet said..




Reckon we can get an update?


Been away so not much further action other than a small blow out.

The peel ply I used didn't peel off. Argh! It was Some sort of new flash stuff recommended too me by the peel ply salesman that didn't work properly. Morrel of the story is dont trust salesman's bull****.

So I now I have hours of careful sanding to remove the peel only and no carbon.

Plummet
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25 Sep 2019 2:37PM
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Hours of sanding later. Still more detail work to go.

awkward customer
NSW, 203 posts
25 Sep 2019 8:02PM
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Hey man its looking good! If it makes you feel better I turned down the new "satin finish" ply for the usual red stripe- but my ****ty pump died 20min before gel time so I had to tape my layup down, this is two days of sanding/filling in and im no where near done. Keep at it dude.

Plummet
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26 Sep 2019 1:11AM
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Hey man its looking good! If it makes you feel better I turned down the new "satin finish" ply for the usual red stripe- but my ****ty pump died 20min before gel time so I had to tape my layup down, this is two days of sanding/filling in and im no where near done. Keep at it dude.


Argh!.... Thats part of the reason i use a mechanical press as well. If my ****ty vac pump dies the press still holds the shape.

The good new for me is the flex feels good and I am getting there. It wont look perfect like a nomad kiteboard but it should do the business.

CJ2478
NSW, 373 posts
26 Sep 2019 8:36AM
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Hours of sanding later. Still more detail work to go.


damn that looks good. The peel ply issue has created an interesting effect.

What directions does the 12K fibre run? Looks to be on the 45?

Plummet
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26 Sep 2019 8:55AM
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Plummet said..


Hours of sanding later. Still more detail work to go.



damn that looks good. The peel ply issue has created an interesting effect.

What directions does the 12K fibre run? Looks to be on the 45?


12k on 45's.

The interesting effect you see is a left overs from a protective layer of 100gm glass I also had on there. I had to sacrifice that layer to get the peel ply off.

Plummet
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2 Oct 2019 1:44PM
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Close now.

LeighMajor
NSW, 328 posts
2 Oct 2019 9:23PM
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Close now.


Arrrh a thing of beauty.
Looks the goods mate.
Bloody Legend.

eppo
WA, 7339 posts
3 Oct 2019 6:33AM
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Nice work plum.

airsail
QLD, 356 posts
3 Oct 2019 1:46PM
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Plummet said..

CJ2478 said..


Plummet said..





Reckon we can get an update?



Been away so not much further action other than a small blow out.

The peel ply I used didn't peel off. Argh! It was Some sort of new flash stuff recommended too me by the peel ply salesman that didn't work properly. Morrel of the story is dont trust salesman's bull****.

So I now I have hours of careful sanding to remove the peel only and no carbon.


I just buy polyester from the fabric remnants shop, about $4/mtr, works just fine.

Plummet
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4 Oct 2019 1:42AM
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airsail said..

Plummet said..


CJ2478 said..



Plummet said..






Reckon we can get an update?




Been away so not much further action other than a small blow out.

The peel ply I used didn't peel off. Argh! It was Some sort of new flash stuff recommended too me by the peel ply salesman that didn't work properly. Morrel of the story is dont trust salesman's bull****.

So I now I have hours of careful sanding to remove the peel only and no carbon.



I just buy polyester from the fabric remnants shop, about $4/mtr, works just fine.


I might try that next time. Perhaps with a trail first! What a fricken rookie mistake!. I should have known better and dones a test trial first.

Plummet
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6 Oct 2019 2:01AM
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Top side done.

I'll bolt up fins/pads later today when resin is fully hard.






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wishy
WA, 1399 posts
6 Oct 2019 7:13PM
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Looks fantastic (except it's setup for a bloody goofy footer!)

Gazuki
WA, 1005 posts
6 Oct 2019 7:38PM
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Looks nice, I want one

daniel_y
WA, 80 posts
6 Oct 2019 8:54PM
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Look good... but what's the go with the single front fin?

Plummet
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7 Oct 2019 1:03AM
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wishy said..
Looks fantastic (except it's setup for a bloody goofy footer!)


Yeah mate. That's me, A weirdo goofy-footer.




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daniel_y said..
Look good... but what's the go with the single front fin?



I ride backwards out through the surf and booooost. Then fowards in and ride waves. I discovered that taking the toeside fin does not increase grip for boosting, But it can catch when riding dtl on waves. Taking that fin out gave better wave performance without compromising boostage.

1likeBJ
WA, 143 posts
15 Oct 2019 11:05AM
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I ride backwards out through the surf and booooost. Then fowards in and ride waves. I discovered that taking the toeside fin does not increase grip for boosting, But it can catch when riding dtl on waves. Taking that fin out gave better wave performance without compromising boostage.


Agree. I had 5 days last week out along NW Cape on an Airush Shredder and leaving the front toeside fin out is the go for me. I'm regular stance so riding waves toeside - even more chance to trip over a front fin. Anyone ride a mutant totally finless on the front?

First time on a mutant and I found I was able to use the tail fins to carve hard upwind heelside into the wave so long as I concentrated on not catching an edge

Plummet
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19 Oct 2019 8:42AM
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1likeBJ said..

Plummet said..
I ride backwards out through the surf and booooost. Then fowards in and ride waves. I discovered that taking the toeside fin does not increase grip for boosting, But it can catch when riding dtl on waves. Taking that fin out gave better wave performance without compromising boostage.



Agree. I had 5 days last week out along NW Cape on an Airush Shredder and leaving the front toeside fin out is the go for me. I'm regular stance so riding waves toeside - even more chance to trip over a front fin. Anyone ride a mutant totally finless on the front?

First time on a mutant and I found I was able to use the tail fins to carve hard upwind heelside into the wave so long as I concentrated on not catching an edge


I'll give it a go and report back.

Plummet
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19 Oct 2019 12:07PM
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I've had 3 sessions on Mutant V3 ranging from 12 to 35 knots. 12,10 and 8m.

Sea conditions havent been ideal. ****ty small swell with not really ridable waves except for today which was prime mutant conditions.
20-30+ knots on cross on with washing machine slop for waves. Some really nice ramps to boost off. Not really any decent wave riding though as it was too onshore.

How did the V3 go?

Well, it's smooooth and faaaaast and efficient. Cranks upwind like a mofo and slashes up a storm on the crud i've ridden it on.
Backwards is good. You can't really tell it's going backwards. Its really poppy and playful. Boosting was magic. Its got a tone of bite and can load and pop for a sweet boost. It definitely boosts better than my old mutant.

What don't i like? I think I've pulled too much rocker out. It makes it fast and efficient, but I have managed to bury the nose a few times. I never buried the nose on my old mutant. But the old mutant was real power-hungry.

Now i have to try some different binding configurations.

Overall i'm happy. But i do think i'll make another one with more rocker for big waves.

Plummet
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23 Oct 2019 1:15AM
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Tried the furtherest rearward mutant position yesterday.

oh..... feels good. All of a sudden my nose rocker makes more sense in the rearward position,
I can lean forward smashing a toeside bottom turn without burying the nose. High-speed Top turn/bottom turn carve on the wave face is real lush. I really like it. That's my preferred style over the over a SB tight bottom turn and cutback on the lip. I prefer to line up a jacking up face and blaze a faster top and bottom turns carving along the face then smashing glorious high-speed heel side carve off the wave before it dumps.
This board does that oh so nicely. Nicer than my old board.

Wind has still been too onshore for hard out dtl riding. But yesterday gave me a good indication of what it will be like. There was head hight dumping erratic surf. But that is where a mutant board shines of an sb or a TT. I can carve up a few sections before they close out then boost up on the way back out.

I'll have to admit i'm rusty as FARK after riding only the foil for 6 months. The more I ride the new mutant the more a recalibrate my brain back into mutant riding the more I like this board.

Also being more efficient I have noticed that the board tops on sooner and I need to downsize to a smaller kite sooner than the old board.
That's not too much of a biggy. It may affect my max boost ability I guess as I can't hold as much power..... But that is the trade-off for a more efficient board, You cant have all features at the same time. The positive side is that i'll be able to run smaller kites in those sweet waev days where boosting is less important. Then i will able to be a size down getting the benifits of smaller kite speed... so its not all bad.



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