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Core xr 5 slow

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Created by PusherII A week ago, 8 Oct 2018
PusherII
8 posts
8 Oct 2018 9:26PM
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So, despite the amazing reviews, i never really fallen in love with my core xr5. Boost machine and very stabile, amazing Wind range. But i feel it very very slow when drive It, have to go so aggressive on the bar, even with all regulation setted to move faster. I have a 10 and 13,5..
Am i the only one with this feeling?
Previous kite were bandits and i know i cant pretend the same, but i tried several other kites and noone has a so slow response time when i steer it

cauncy
WA, 6361 posts
9 Oct 2018 7:28AM
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You've Le and wingtip adjustments, use them, fly the kite on its shortest backline settings, that way when you initiate your turn there's no lag in response, optimum pressure in the Kite give a more responsive feel
A 13.5 is never going to be quick a 10 at best will be respectable, no kites in this genre are fast in comparison to others models

eppo
WA, 6577 posts
9 Oct 2018 2:18PM
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Always a trade off man with any kite.

If you considered the XR was a replacement for your bandit you have not done your homework buddy. Very different kites for very different purposes even within that all round spectrum.

PusherII
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9 Oct 2018 6:45PM
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eppo said..
Always a trade off man with any kite.

If you considered the XR was a replacement for your bandit you have not done your homework buddy. Very different kites for very different purposes even within that all round spectrum.


I appreciate a lot the fact that this kite has a superior quality of materials, and huuuge wind range let me kite more than with bandit.
And i did lot of research, it seems i am the first one in the world saing xr is pretty slow in response! i am ok with that, just wanted to know if somebody else agree with me. I tried other kites a part of bandit. i Found the rally 10 so much faster than 10 xr for example

crakas
QLD, 388 posts
9 Oct 2018 9:49PM
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I've only flown a 12m XR5. Very nice kite and does a lot of things extremely well however it doesn't turn fast and isn't very responsive when initiating a turn.

So you are not on your own..

eppo
WA, 6577 posts
10 Oct 2018 8:21AM
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PusherII said..


eppo said..
Always a trade off man with any kite.

If you considered the XR was a replacement for your bandit you have not done your homework buddy. Very different kites for very different purposes even within that all round spectrum.




I appreciate a lot the fact that this kite has a superior quality of materials, and huuuge wind range let me kite more than with bandit.
And i did lot of research, it seems i am the first one in the world saing xr is pretty slow in response! i am ok with that, just wanted to know if somebody else agree with me. I tried other kites a part of bandit. i Found the rally 10 so much faster than 10 xr for example




Yes the rally having a predominant and obvious delta shape would move faster.

The bandit is three struts as well, lighter and more nimble, also has more C shape in the profile, so again will move much faster.

The XR is an big jumping old school freeride kite. which can be looped if ones got enough balls.

You DO NOT want these kites to move fast if you are using it for the purpose it is designed for.

To make a comment like "it doesn't move fast compared to say a bandit", once again implies you have not done your homework, nor really understand the kites intentions.

....for example it's like riding a rebel and asking why it doesn't turn as fast as an evo? Or getting on an edge and saying, damn this thing turns soooo much slower than an Enduro.

it's not a question you should be asking... move on.

weebitbreezy
347 posts
Wednesday , 10 Oct 2018 9:11PM
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I agree with you. The XR5 is relatively slow - though fairly typical for the style of kite. Have tried it quite a few times and it doesn't gel for me the same way my regular kites do. I have always thought that it suited heavier guys better (85kg+) but then I never rode the old C kites so I didn't start with kites with that heavy pull all the time.

Just do more airstyle! You'll be loving that slow turn in no time compared to your bandit.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1565 posts
Thursday , 11 Oct 2018 5:06AM
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Yes from 9m upwards they are Pig slow - even on their fastest setting.
Sometimes you wonder where the hell the kite is, like it's on a secret mission... other than that, it's good for its intended purpose.

Do yourself a favour and use a 60cm bar, 9m & over..

The 9m loops fast enough and will catch you every time if you have enough wind.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1565 posts
Thursday , 11 Oct 2018 1:27PM
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Don't forget you can also run the shorter lines - and youll get the turn speed back...
Plenty of options for fine tuning

holgs
WA, 251 posts
Saturday , 13 Oct 2018 2:10AM
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I have a 12m XR4 and yes, it's quite slow turning. But slightly faster than the Edge that I had previously. It's normal for that style of kite. Both are high aspect 5 strut kites designed for hang time and easy boosting with a racing pedigree.

The Bandit on the other hand is one of fastest turning free ride / all rounder kites there is. But you trade off some easy boosting and hang time, especially at the bottom end of the wind range. You can't have it all. If you like to move your kite around aggressively then the XR is not the right kite for you. What didn't you like about the Bandits?

PusherII
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Tuesday , 16 Oct 2018 4:55AM
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holgs said..
I have a 12m XR4 and yes, it's quite slow turning. But slightly faster than the Edge that I had previously. It's normal for that style of kite. Both are high aspect 5 strut kites designed for hang time and easy boosting with a racing pedigree.

The Bandit on the other hand is one of fastest turning free ride / all rounder kites there is. But you trade off some easy boosting and hang time, especially at the bottom end of the wind range. You can't have it all. If you like to move your kite around aggressively then the XR is not the right kite for you. What didn't you like about the Bandits?



Thanks all for your feedback. Actually i May did not fully homework but hey, that are tipically not infos You Will find in reviews or videos etc. Furthermore still now every kite i tried was Pretty fast, so i d never thinked ti find the xr slow. But is ok, Will think.if sell or keep It.

To response to yourquestion, i totally loved bandit, my First kite and incredibly funny. But the trade off is a not very good love end, and my spot is not famous ti have loro offerta Wind. So xr5 help me a lot in this. Another thing about f One is the construction quality Pretty low in my opinion. Also about quality, core is another category, imho.

PusherII
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Tuesday , 16 Oct 2018 4:57AM
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PusherII said..

holgs said..
I have a 12m XR4 and yes, it's quite slow turning. But slightly faster than the Edge that I had previously. It's normal for that style of kite. Both are high aspect 5 strut kites designed for hang time and easy boosting with a racing pedigree.

The Bandit on the other hand is one of fastest turning free ride / all rounder kites there is. But you trade off some easy boosting and hang time, especially at the bottom end of the wind range. You can't have it all. If you like to move your kite around aggressively then the XR is not the right kite for you. What didn't you like about the Bandits?




Thanks all for your feedback. Actually i May did not fully homework but hey, that are tipically not infos You Will find in reviews or videos etc. Furthermore still now every kite i tried was Pretty fast, so i d never thinked ti find the xr slow. But is ok, Will think.if sell or keep It.

To response to yourquestion, i totally loved bandit, my First kite and incredibly funny. But the trade off is a not very good low end, and my spot is not famous ti have lot of Wind. So xr5 help me a lot in this. Another thing about f One is the construction quality Pretty low in my opinion. Also about quality, core is another category

PusherII
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Tuesday , 16 Oct 2018 4:59AM
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SaveTheWhales said..
Yes from 9m upwards they are Pig slow - even on their fastest setting.
Sometimes you wonder where the hell the kite is, like it's on a secret mission... other than that, it's good for its intended purpose.

Do yourself a favour and use a 60cm bar, 9m & over..

The 9m loops fast enough and will catch you every time if you have enough wind.


Yes i thinked me too to try It with a different bar. Do you know if cabrinas or rrd are fully working with core?
Pretty sick btw, since core bar is awesome

weebitbreezy
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Tuesday , 16 Oct 2018 7:31PM
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PusherII said..

SaveTheWhales said..
Yes from 9m upwards they are Pig slow - even on their fastest setting.
Sometimes you wonder where the hell the kite is, like it's on a secret mission... other than that, it's good for its intended purpose.

Do yourself a favour and use a 60cm bar, 9m & over..

The 9m loops fast enough and will catch you every time if you have enough wind.



Yes i thinked me too to try It with a different bar. Do you know if cabrinas or rrd are fully working with core?
Pretty sick btw, since core bar is awesome


No the cabrinha and RRD bars have a low V split so you'll change the handling. Yes it will work but you may get slightly wierd (rubbish) handling and it won't be the same as the kite was designed to be.

I'd expect the new F-one bar (lynx?) to work and I know the North 4 line bars (2015 on) work - if you don't fancy relearning you QR muscle memory.

Nathe
WA, 320 posts
Wednesday , 17 Oct 2018 4:31AM
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Have to disagree with the low v. I changed the bar on my xr5 to a low split and it didn't make a difference at all. The throw on the core bars are huge and was real uncomfortable ride.
Give the others bars a shot you might find they work fine



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