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Slingshot H4 or best very low aspect foil choice

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Created by warwickl > 9 months ago, 26 Apr 2018
warwickl
NSW, 2174 posts
26 Apr 2018 6:06PM
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Anyone used Slingshot H4 SUP foil for kiting?
Seems it could match other very low aspect wings?

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
26 Apr 2018 8:36PM
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warwickl said..
Anyone used Slingshot H4 SUP foil for kiting?
Seems it could match other very low aspect wings?


Do you specifically want a low aspect wing, or do you just want to surf waves with a foil and kite?

warwickl
NSW, 2174 posts
26 Apr 2018 8:47PM
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Kamikuza said..

warwickl said..
Anyone used Slingshot H4 SUP foil for kiting?
Seems it could match other very low aspect wings?



Do you specifically want a low aspect wing, or do you just want to surf waves with a foil and kite?


Surf small waves with the added benefit of easier jibing.
I have Zeeko Carver (710 cm2) and carbon race foils and love them all.
Guys in my local are jibing easily on Naish SUP foils and it is pushing me to add this type of foil to my quiver. I have demoed and it is much easier on these foils.
I just want a proven big - say 1000 cm2 foil that is smooth and durable.

emmafoils
307 posts
26 Apr 2018 11:36PM
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I would recommend a big Naish foil, the Moses 633 or Liquid Force Impulse over the big SS foils. This is based on personal experience and those of friends whose judgement I trust. I have no financial conflict of interest.

kemp90
QLD, 1692 posts
27 Apr 2018 8:18AM
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H2 is an amazing foil. It's similar to the H4, the H4 has a less locked in feel then the H2. If you like carving in the waves then the H4 would be better, but if your into doing tricky feet stuff with tacks and other cool stuff the H2 is awsome.

With those big foils you get over powered very easily and you need lots of front foot pressure to keep it from breaching.

I would definintely recommend getting one

horey69
QLD, 495 posts
27 Apr 2018 6:18PM
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Have you watched the Huston kiteboarding you tube vid about the slingshot wings?
Good info on which on to choose and why.

warwickl
NSW, 2174 posts
27 Apr 2018 7:43PM
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Even though I often go against the trend a few friends happy on Naish so that was my deciding factor.
I also had a demo on both Naish sizes and I had a couple if minor issues but negligible.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
27 Apr 2018 7:47PM
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warwickl said..

Kamikuza said..


warwickl said..
Anyone used Slingshot H4 SUP foil for kiting?
Seems it could match other very low aspect wings?


Do you specifically want a low aspect wing, or do you just want to surf waves with a foil and kite?


Surf small waves with the added benefit of easier jibing.
I have Zeeko Carver (710 cm2) and carbon race foils and love them all.
Guys in my local are jibing easily on Naish SUP foils and it is pushing me to add this type of foil to my quiver. I have demoed and it is much easier on these foils.
I just want a proven big - say 1000 cm2 foil that is smooth and durable.


Yup. As I said, I had an Axis 720mm wide prototype SUP wing in NZ for six weeks, and had a play for a week on a 920 too.

In the photo are the production wings, with the tech specs on the wing tips. Assuming it scales about the same, the 720 would be 1200cm2 and the 620 must have been no more than 1000.

720 was the sweet spot for me. After not foiling for 6 months, I got back to making 100% of foot changes almost instantly. The couple of sessions I had on the kite foil before I got the SUP, I couldn't make a single one :D The 620 was basically a 720 with clipped tips, so lower AR. I didn't like it -- preferred the additional stability of the wider foil.

I had a HG too. The Axis is more "fun" and much lighter . . . can't imagine how much the H4 would weigh if they've used the same construction method.

In other words, try wings with different AR and see what you like. If you can.





benmj
VIC, 71 posts
29 Apr 2018 8:59AM
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These are the go for SUP and Kite if you want to do both.
Newer design on the wing makes it nicer through the speed range you can do 2 or 22 knots on the foil.
Different mast sizes as well.


DukeSilver
WA, 380 posts
29 Apr 2018 7:45AM
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benmj said..
These are the go for SUP and Kite if you want to do both.
Newer design on the wing makes it nicer through the speed range you can do 2 or 22 knots on the foil.
Different mast sizes as well.



Will this wing fit the normal Moses fuselage like all the other Moses wings or does it have it's own fuselage?

emmafoils
307 posts
29 Apr 2018 8:56AM
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DukeSilver said..

benmj said..
These are the go for SUP and Kite if you want to do both.
Newer design on the wing makes it nicer through the speed range you can do 2 or 22 knots on the foil.
Different mast sizes as well.



Will this wing fit the normal Moses fuselage like all the other Moses wings or does it have it's own fuselage?


I believe the 633 requires own fuse. Reliable friends of mine absolutely love this foil

DukeSilver
WA, 380 posts
29 Apr 2018 11:20AM
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emmafoils said..

DukeSilver said..


benmj said..
These are the go for SUP and Kite if you want to do both.
Newer design on the wing makes it nicer through the speed range you can do 2 or 22 knots on the foil.
Different mast sizes as well.




Will this wing fit the normal Moses fuselage like all the other Moses wings or does it have it's own fuselage?



I believe the 633 requires own fuse. Reliable friends of mine absolutely love this foil


Great. Thanks for the info. I bet it's great to use though.

max_ob
QLD, 185 posts
29 Apr 2018 7:55PM
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emmafoils said..

DukeSilver said..


benmj said..
These are the go for SUP and Kite if you want to do both.
Newer design on the wing makes it nicer through the speed range you can do 2 or 22 knots on the foil.
Different mast sizes as well.




Will this wing fit the normal Moses fuselage like all the other Moses wings or does it have it's own fuselage?




I believe the 633 requires own fuse. Reliable friends of mine absolutely love this foil



the people who have this 633 wing are most likely not jumping with it . . . do you know if they recommend not to because of its size?

Jedibrad
NSW, 526 posts
30 Apr 2018 11:31AM
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Hi, I've been prone surfing on the H4 and kiting on it too. For its size it has a pretty good top end speed under kite

I bought it because it's kind of designed to bash the bottom a bit, had i bought the naish i would have broken the stabiliser many times over

bigtone667
NSW, 1502 posts
30 Apr 2018 4:12PM
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Jedibrad said..
Hi, I've been prone surfing on the H4 and kiting on it too. For its size it has a pretty good top end speed under kite

I bought it because it's kind of designed to bash the bottom a bit, had i bought the naish i would have broken the stabiliser many times over


I swapped out the Naish Surf Stab for Naish Kite Stab............... The Surf Stab feels better, but you can only replace a stabilizer so many times.

Swavek
WA, 393 posts
30 Apr 2018 8:41PM
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emmafoils said..


DukeSilver said..



benmj said..
These are the go for SUP and Kite if you want to do both.
Newer design on the wing makes it nicer through the speed range you can do 2 or 22 knots on the foil.
Different mast sizes as well.





Will this wing fit the normal Moses fuselage like all the other Moses wings or does it have it's own fuselage?




I believe the 633 requires own fuse. Reliable friends of mine absolutely love this foil



Yes, different fuselage and stabiliser for Moses 633 wing, the same mast can be used.

probabli
WA, 28 posts
1 May 2018 6:49AM
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Jedibrad said..
Hi, I've been prone surfing on the H4 and kiting on it too. For its size it has a pretty good top end speed under kite

I bought it because it's kind of designed to bash the bottom a bit, had i bought the naish i would have broken the stabiliser many times over


How are you finding prone surfing on a foil? Worth getting into?

Jedibrad
NSW, 526 posts
2 May 2018 9:09AM
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Honestly, it's really fun. But prone is limited to probably 2ft max on the take off. A perfect wave is the worst most gutless wave you can imagine.

You could tow in on bigger waves or sup in because they can foil before the wave breaks.

I have absolutely no doubt that which ever foil people buy this year will completely obsolete in 2 years time.

So prone you're gunna be in shallow water and for me over reef, so that's the reason i got the h4



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