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Slingshot H4 foil vs what size in the Axis S range?

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Created by Lambie > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
Lambie
QLD, 738 posts
21 Nov 2018 9:41PM
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Ive been foiling for a year now and having a ball - but my first foil choice is a speedy one which I love but now wanting to learn to jibe and it scares the shaight out of me to commit to a turn at warp speed - as background I can throw a surfboard around and down loop the kite happily for transitions and have been for quite a few years.

My mate has just started foiling and gone for the Slingy H4 and is riding toe side and jibing WTF ?? Its super slow and he's just loving it - perfect for his reason of wanting to get into the surf and slashing waves apart on the foil !!

Im thinking of buying a big front wing (slower) foil and the Axis S series has grabbed my attention. Im 84 kg and am planning on using my existing Spots race board with a tuttle box - Is the Axis S series the go and what size wing for a stable turning wing that is surf orientated ?? 76 cm wing ?? This foiling world is so confusing !!

toppleover
QLD, 2033 posts
22 Nov 2018 6:56AM
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All the Axis foils are very stable (even the 680 that I learnt on), this thread is an interesting read & may help to confuse you even more

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Foiling/Wing-Surface-Areas?page=1

kemp90
QLD, 1692 posts
22 Nov 2018 1:09PM
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I would possibly go the H2 over the H4 for learning tricky stuff. The H2 is more stable in the side by side turns, this makes tacking all that cool slow stuff really easy.

kiter64
WA, 45 posts
22 Nov 2018 11:27AM
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Learning on the Axis-s with 680 wing and its pretty easy compared to what else I rode , highly recommend it .
A lot slower than the small wings and consequently turning around toe side and attempting gybes is a lot less scary :)

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
22 Nov 2018 1:40PM
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680 if you want to "free ride" foil and maybe have a play in the waves or swell, go a size bigger if you're going to get into waves or chase lighter wind/smaller kites. If you're heavier or want to SUP/surf it, then another size up.

I got my S-series in like, July, and have been able to get out less than once a week on average. Started trying to change feet on the foil last month, and now am sticking pretty much 9/10 foiling gybes.

Love the big wings!

eppo
WA, 9372 posts
22 Nov 2018 12:01PM
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either one surely would be great for stability. I had one session on a happy foil (medium aspect), two on a Konrad (free ride foil) ...not a great deal of success, but the occasional 50m ride.

Got the 680 axis setup, and by end of the first session was easily foiling 100-200m.

4 sessions in I'm toeside, heelside turns... - riding as long as I want on a tack, easily going downwind...but swapping feet is still punishment (I'm on a minimal volume board so I'm blaming that! - lol)

So ...it must be a damn stable system I suppose and with your experience you'd be cranking!!

I plan to actually get a faster high aspect wing one day for speed...but I figured start with the bigger sup/surf wings.

bigtone667
NSW, 1502 posts
22 Nov 2018 7:54PM
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eppo said..
either one surely would be great for stability. I had one session on a happy foil (medium aspect), two on a Konrad (free ride foil) ...not a great deal of success, but the occasional 50m ride.

Got the 680 axis setup, and by end of the first session was easily foiling 100-200m.

4 sessions in I'm toeside, heelside turns... - riding as long as I want on a tack, easily going downwind...but swapping feet is still punishment (I'm on a minimal volume board so I'm blaming that! - lol)

So ...it must be a damn stable system I suppose and with your experience you'd be cranking!!

I plan to actually get a faster high aspect wing one day for speed...but I figured start with the bigger sup/surf wings.


I don't think you realise how brilliantly well your doing......... well done!!!

RAL INN
VIC, 2880 posts
23 Nov 2018 10:56AM
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Sometimes we need to accept that there are those who take up foiling and it clicks and away they go.
And to those lucky few I'd say "go stick your left eye in hot cockys cack".

the new wave of slow high lift foils are definitely easier to turn and transition etc.
However I think that it comes at a cost to some other foiling skills that could lead to further advance in foiling abilities.

I've been playing on my XXLW Spitfire and got to compare with a normal Surf type foil on weekend.

but while it makes turning etc a no brainer, it also feels a bit numb.
There is that foiling challenge of can you survive to even do it, if I didn't see it done then I'd say it was impossible.
Already missing jumps.



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