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F.O.M.O

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Created by Youngbreezy > 9 months ago, 21 Oct 2017
Youngbreezy
WA, 531 posts
21 Oct 2017 9:33AM
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I have discovered the worst thing about kite foiling!!

The constant attack of the Fear of Missing Out!!!

It used to take a solid set of green arrows before I felt I was missing out but now that I am getting a little more proficient on the foil and the foiling bug is really starting to kick in any cheeky little yellow arrow is epic conditions I am missing out on!!
Here in Perth whilst consistent green arrows are mostly through the summer time it's yellow arrows most days from one direction or another all year round day in day out!!. I am self employed and this foil boarding game is bad for business!!!

Heaven forbid I upgrade my equipment and skills and red arrows become legit fun then I will wind up a homeless man pushing a shopping trolley full of kites and foil boards!!!

DukeSilver
WA, 259 posts
21 Oct 2017 1:09PM
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I hear you. Did you get out this morning? Applecross jetty was great in the NE'er.

Youngbreezy
WA, 531 posts
21 Oct 2017 2:57PM
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No I had to work this morning which was a definite attack of missing out

Plummet
4517 posts
21 Oct 2017 3:39PM
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To think about it another way. You don't have to stress out about forecasts anymore. There will always be a wind for foiling.

Lambie
QLD, 726 posts
21 Oct 2017 8:50PM
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So as a newby - Im wondering what kite I should be using to attempt my new foil experience - compared to what Im used to with a surfboard?? Im 93 kg and generally on one of those Axis New wave boards - in 12 knots with a Bandit 14m kite I can get going but only just hold gound (not much fun) . So Ive grabbed a 2nd hand Spotz 2 foil board - in 10 (true) knots do I throw up my 14m kite (that makes sense too me!!) or pump up the smaller 11m kite?? I hear foiling is like going back to the basics ? so Im expecting I should use a bigger kite to get things going until it actually happens and then drop a kite size?? And those sharp wings are scaring the ****e out of me!! LOL

DukeSilver
WA, 259 posts
21 Oct 2017 9:43PM
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Lambie said..
So as a newby - Im wondering what kite I should be using to attempt my new foil experience - compared to what Im used to with a surfboard?? Im 93 kg and generally on one of those Axis New wave boards - in 12 knots with a Bandit 14m kite I can get going but only just hold gound (not much fun) . So Ive grabbed a 2nd hand Spotz 2 foil board - in 10 (true) knots do I throw up my 14m kite (that makes sense too me!!) or pump up the smaller 11m kite?? I hear foiling is like going back to the basics ? so Im expecting I should use a bigger kite to get things going until it actually happens and then drop a kite size?? And those sharp wings are scaring the ****e out of me!! LOL


You've chosen one of the tougher types of foils to learn on. You will be able to do it, it just might take a few days longer and be a bit scarier compared to a slower freeride foil. I would suggest NOT going out in 10kts with a tube kite when learning. You want ample power when learning in the early stages as you'll have your hands full with whats under your feet. You don't want to be worried about trying to keep the kite in the air as well. 15 - 18kts with a 7m - 9m kite will be a better option for you I think. Good luck and enjoy the ride - it's a lot of fun.

Plummet
4517 posts
22 Oct 2017 1:36AM
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Yeah. 10 knots is a **** to learn in particularly when your lei doesn't relaunch!.

go 15 knots at least. one size down from what you would use on the sb for the first couple of sessions. Once you start getting more foiling runs then 4m smaller than sb.

RAL INN
VIC, 2753 posts
22 Oct 2017 7:15AM
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F OMO is very bad

bigtone667
NSW, 1047 posts
22 Oct 2017 7:32AM
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Had quite a chuckle reading this.... today's forecast for newcastle NSW is all red arrows. And I looking very closely at the little hint of a potential 9 knot SE wind and thinking I might get a run (FOMO LOL).

Having said that, the foil gives me an extra 50 klicks of fun every week.

RAL INN
VIC, 2753 posts
22 Oct 2017 10:22AM
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What's a laugh is when you rock up to everyone packing up in disgust and you pump up an 8m kite.

Youngbreezy
WA, 531 posts
22 Oct 2017 9:00AM
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Yes the flip side of the fomo is being able to get out and have a great session regardless of the average conditions

Here in perth we get a lot of 12 to 15 knot days where it's not enough for a good twin tip session and there are either no waves or the wind isn't in a direction that's good for waves then in comes the foil and your flying!!! It is kind of funny eyeing off the readings all day waiting for those shifty little yellow arrows to show up

Lambie I am learning on a spots carbon race foil, I don't know if it's a 1 or 2 it was lent to me by a friend whilst he is away travelling. I'm sure there are better things to learn on but if it's all you've got its totally do able

snalberski
WA, 634 posts
22 Oct 2017 9:40AM
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I think what DukeSilver says is pretty spot on. 15-18 knts for me is the sweet zone not just for learning but for max fun foiling sessions in general.
When learning I found the kite size you would normally use makes it much easier as you know what power generation to expect.
Don't dive the kite hard like you would with a TT.... keep the kite very high (11-1) sighning until your standing bolt upright on the board integrating very small graduations of forward diving to get you truckin.
I learnt with a heavy 5 strut freeride kite which works fine but an agile, light ,drifting and forgiving kite like the Ultra I just bought makes it way easier

bigtone667
NSW, 1047 posts
22 Oct 2017 2:49PM
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No FOMO today...... 18 knot top speed in a 10 knot breeze.... love it

DukeSilver
WA, 259 posts
22 Oct 2017 1:38PM
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Love it. No FOMO for you.

warwickl
NSW, 1190 posts
22 Oct 2017 6:05PM
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Youngbreezy
WA, 531 posts
22 Oct 2017 4:31PM
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That is awesome

Lambie
QLD, 726 posts
22 Oct 2017 9:00PM
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FOMO is why Im looking at foiling !! Thanks for the comments and Im getting that to learn to foil its best to just do whats normal !! Thanks for the feedback!!

bigtone667
NSW, 1047 posts
20 Nov 2017 6:12AM
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I figured yesterdays ride belongs in FOMO.

In my never ending desire to achieve ultimate surf foil, I have landed on the Naish Surf Thrust (1200cm2) wing. Super slow with top speed of about 13 knots on my Cloud kites.

I paired it with a board/kite that is suitable for the yesterdays light wind conditions. That was the Naish Hover 150 (essentially a skimboard with some foil tracks) and 13.4m Cloud with 25m Race Lines (thanks Christian for recommendation).

I kicked off just after 4pm and kited till 6pm.... I did about 30 klicks.





I only discovered after my first 120 klicks on foil that I have the rear wing mounted the wrong way up. I haven't bothered to correct my mistake because I getting really nice slide on the turns and I saving most of my breaches.

Here is comparison of the wing size to a Spitfire XLW.



RAL INN
VIC, 2753 posts
20 Nov 2017 11:31AM
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FOMO can catch you out.
Saturday tide running out wind dropping but don't want to miss out on that last run.
cruizin practice slaloming to build healside to toeside carves.
?? sandbar induced face plant.
stand up in 800 mm of water with a 900mm mast. Not sandbar just the never ending flat bottom of Corner inlet.
400m of body drag later I wished I had missed out on that.

bigtone667
NSW, 1047 posts
20 Nov 2017 11:55AM
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RAL INN said..
FOMO can catch you out.
Saturday tide running out wind dropping but don't want to miss out on that last run.
cruizin practice slaloming to build healside to toeside carves.
?? sandbar induced face plant.
stand up in 800 mm of water with a 900mm mast. Not sandbar just the never ending flat bottom of Corner inlet.
400m of body drag later I wished I had missed out on that.


And still it's worth it.

bigtone667
NSW, 1047 posts
27 Nov 2017 5:10AM
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This is why a foil is worth the investment as a relaxation device....

Kited from 1pm to 5pm and travelled 50km in sub 10knots on a 10.4m kite. Top speed was a relaxing 15 knots.













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