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Are local council packing tickets enforceable?

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Created by Capt Loopy > 9 months ago, 3 Mar 2021
Capt Loopy
NSW, 276 posts
3 Mar 2021 7:22PM
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Like the title says are they enforceable under law or more like private companies like Wilsons parking which you can just ignore?

Mark _australia
WA, 22088 posts
3 Mar 2021 5:29PM
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Are in WA. License suspensions etc. I'd be surprised if it wasn't over there

LastSupper
VIC, 360 posts
3 Mar 2021 9:03PM
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They just hand it over to the debt collectors and then things get interesting they will hound u till u die 100 bucks will double 200 will double and so on

theDoctor
NSW, 5765 posts
3 Mar 2021 10:25PM
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so
you can be thorn in debt collectors side until they give up, and they will.
but you've gotta go full conspiracy nut.
basically, they buy the debt on the hope you bow to their authority faster than to whom you originally owed the supposed debt to in the first place.
I've multiple examples myself of how they've given up against me cause I'm in the too hard basket.
there's plenty of youtube tutorials, but mr and mrs my taxes contribute and my vote counts are gonna call you out cause they're so sure of themselves

cisco
QLD, 12311 posts
3 Mar 2021 9:28PM
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If you are an Australian citizen/resident and you do not pay your fines the gubmnt will climb right up your clacker.

If you are a backpacker you just ignore the demands for payment because they don't even bail you up at the airport immigration desk when you fly out.

The Kiwi gubmnt does. Kiwi cops bailed me up at the airport for unpaid fines way back in 1978. Kiwi was the first country in the world to get a cop computer which was a trial for the NWO.

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
3 Mar 2021 9:30PM
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The answer is yes.
Check Local Government Act.
It is law.
You may contest the fine, though you'd have to compelling evidence to support why you shouldn't have to pay.

theDoctor
NSW, 5765 posts
4 Mar 2021 7:59AM
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i should clarify
there is a difference between a debt collector and the state debt recovery.
one will just cry and threaten to ruin your credit rating
the other will cancel your driver's license without telling you and send sheriff's

UncleBob
NSW, 1199 posts
4 Mar 2021 10:15AM
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Depends weather the alleged infringement occurred on private or public land.
Public = state debt recovery, Private = non government collection agency that leave a generic note on your windscreen hoping you will pay.
Remember, it is illegal for a government agency to release your personal details to an organisation not empowered to have them.

bazz61
QLD, 3570 posts
4 Mar 2021 10:23AM
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speaking to a retired cop..the bikies register their vehicles /bikes in company names to avoid license suspensions and personal fines ...

CH3MTR4IL5
WA, 745 posts
5 Mar 2021 7:16PM
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bazz61 said..
speaking to a retired cop..the bikies register their vehicles /bikes in company names to avoid license suspensions and personal fines ...


Dunno about qld but in wa the company fine is waaay bigger if the company can't declare a driver, to reduce this happening.

Buster fin
WA, 2567 posts
5 Mar 2021 8:14PM
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CH3MTR4IL5 said..

bazz61 said..
speaking to a retired cop..the bikies register their vehicles /bikes in company names to avoid license suspensions and personal fines ...



Dunno about qld but in wa the company fine is waaay bigger if the company can't declare a driver, to reduce this happening.


Double I think.

eppo
WA, 9372 posts
5 Mar 2021 10:36PM
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I figure if ya parked in a spot that says no parking then pay the damn thing. Whether you think it's stupid or not. Not worth the hassle of fighting it.

I got a fine from the ranger once for parking in front of a house (only quickly) facing the wrong way to traffic. And this street has probably one car pass per hour if that. But hey paid it, bigger things in life to concern oneself with.

Toph
WA, 1797 posts
5 Mar 2021 10:57PM
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I delved into this a few years ago after we were constantly getting parking tickets at work in a private car park. I'm only paraphrasing here because I can't be arsed looking it up again. But basically only the Monarch or her delegate can issue an infringement. In Australia the delegates filter down through Federal, state and local governments. So yes, a local government ranger can issue an enforceable infringement notice. But Westfield Shopping centers for example can't.

dratts
NSW, 18 posts
7 Mar 2021 8:43AM
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Buster fin said..

CH3MTR4IL5 said..


bazz61 said..
speaking to a retired cop..the bikies register their vehicles /bikes in company names to avoid license suspensions and personal fines ...




Dunno about qld but in wa the company fine is waaay bigger if the company can't declare a driver, to reduce this happening.



Double I think.


So they sell twice as many drugs to pay it....

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
7 Mar 2021 9:03PM
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bazz61 said..
speaking to a retired cop..the bikies register their vehicles /bikes in company names to avoid license suspensions and personal fines ...


By retired, you mean out of touch with contemporary fines enforcement?

Haircut
QLD, 6480 posts
9 Mar 2021 9:28PM
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although not a fine, I moved into a rental where a previous tennant must have had a high unpaid optus bill which were still being sent to my address. We returned the early ones to sender as "no longer at this address", but they kept coming. Eventually I caved and started opening them. I don't know what the starting bill was for, but by the time we opened one it read as fairly threatening with regard to action being taken, then "we've reviewed your bill again and we are willing to reduce the bill to $3000 if you are prepared to pay now".

The following ones asked for less and less if paid immediately till they eventually no longer came.



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